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The following programme
contains strong language.

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CLERK: Court!

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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

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(HIGH-PITCHED RINGING)

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JIM: The whole case against them
is a fiction.

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It's a lie.
The entire prosecution case

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rested on this... fragment
of electronic circuit board.

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rested on this... fragment
of electronic circuit board.

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It was a clue,
but no one could identify it

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until a forensic scientist at
the FBI did nearly a year later.

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He matched it to timers they'd seized
from Libyan Intelligence agents.

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He matched it to timers they'd seized
from Libyan Intelligence agents.

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British forensic scientists
agreed with the FBI.

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Similar in all respects.

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The timers that the fragment
circuit board came from

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were made by MEBO, a Swiss
company owned by Edwin Bollier.

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Yes, we supplied Libya

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Yes, we supplied Libya

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with 20 of these timers.

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MEBO used long delay timers,

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which are manually set to trigger the
bomb's detonator hours in advance.

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So my question is, why put
the bomb onto two flights,

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Malta to Frankfurt,
Frankfurt to Heathrow,

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before it goes on the plane you want
to blow up? It doesn't make sense.

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You run the risk of
your suitcase being found

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You run the risk of
your suitcase being found

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by security at three airports.

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It's clearly a ludicrous basis
for a prosecution.

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Next...

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Next...

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Tony Gauci.

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Now, he claims that Megrahi
bought from his shop

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the clothes that were wrapped around
the bomb inside the suitcase.

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But a year before he identified
Megrahi, he mentioned someone else.

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Abu Talb, a terrorist with links
to Palestinian militant groups

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Abu Talb, a terrorist with links
to Palestinian militant groups

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operating out of Syria.

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One of the Scottish Police's
first suspects.

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The whole prosecution case against
Fhimah and Megrahi is full of holes.

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The whole prosecution case against
Fhimah and Megrahi is full of holes.

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It was presented as a foregone
conclusion from the very first day.

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These men are guilty.
We will get a conviction.

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Murtagh represented
the US Department of Justice.

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Murtagh represented
the US Department of Justice.

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He said that before the trial began,
but nothing has been proven.

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But if it wasn't them, then who?

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Iran. Syria.

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Iran. Syria.

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But, Jim, they moved on from them.
There's more.

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One of the prosecution's
last witnesses

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was a German Police
explosives expert.

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was a German Police
explosives expert.

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They wanted him to destroy
the Palestinian theory.

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Remember the initial suspects,
the PFLP-GC?

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Well, he did the opposite.

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Well, he did the opposite.

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Flight 103 could only have been
brought down by a PFLP-GC device

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if it had been primed
or put on board at Heathrow.

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if it had been primed
or put on board at Heathrow.

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And a baggage handler at
Heathrow saw two suitcases.

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There was two new suitcases
lying in the container.

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I didn't put them there.

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I didn't put them there.

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Was the bomb that killed Flora
in one of those suitcases?

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Was the bomb loaded
onto the plane at Heathrow?

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Was the bomb loaded
onto the plane at Heathrow?

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Is Iran behind it? Is Syria?

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Did a member of the PFLP-GC
put the suitcase there?

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Nothing in this whole case
adds up. Nothing.

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Nothing in this whole case
adds up. Nothing.

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Fhimah and Megrahi are both innocent.

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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

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Would you give me please
your verdict

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in respect of the named accused,
Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah?

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in respect of the named accused,
Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah?

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Not guilty.

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(INDISTINCT WHISPERS)

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Would you give me please
your verdict

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Would you give me please
your verdict

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in respect of the named accused,
Abdelbaset al-Megrahi?

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Guilty.

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(HIGH-PITCHED RINGING)

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(MUFFLED CHATTER, APPLAUSE)

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(MUFFLED CHATTER, APPLAUSE)

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(BREATHING HEAVILY)

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(INAUDIBLE)

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He can't be...

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He can't...

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He can't...

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(HEARTBEAT POUNDING)

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SUTHERLAND: ..for the crime of
murder is 20 years...

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(ARABIC TRANSLATION
PLAYING THROUGH EARPIECE)

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(ARABIC TRANSLATION
PLAYING THROUGH EARPIECE)

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..life imprisonment..

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(SPEAKING ARABIC)

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..and that is the
sentence that we impose.

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..and that is the
sentence that we impose.

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(HIGH-PITCHED RINGING CONTINUES)
(HEARTBEAT POUNDING FASTER)

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(SPEAKING ARABIC)

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(MEGRAHI'S FAMILY SHOUTING
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(HEARTBEAT THUMPING)

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(MUFFLED) Jim?

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Jim! Quick, get someone, please!

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He's collapsed. Please, help me.
(PEOPLE CLAMOURING)

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Please, help me.Can we get someone
in here?Please get someone.

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Jim, Jim, it's alright.

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Jim, Jim, it's alright.

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Jim, it's alright.
Need a doctor.

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It's alright, Jim. Please...

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NEWSCASTER ON TV: Coming to us
live from New York.

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NEWSCASTER ON TV: Coming to us
live from New York.

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Reports are reaching us
of a collision

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involving a passenger plane

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which appears to have struck
the World Trade Centre.

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which appears to have struck
the World Trade Centre.

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Let's go over
to our colleagues in New York.

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REPORTER: ..tip of Manhattan, you're
looking at the World Trade Centre.

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We understand that a plane has
crashed into the World Trade Centre.

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We understand that a plane has
crashed into the World Trade Centre.

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We don't know anything
more than that.

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We don't know if it was
a commercial aircraft.

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We don't know if it was
a private aircraft.

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We don't know if it was
a private aircraft.

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We have no idea how many
were on board,

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or what the extent
of the injuries are right now.

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Oh... Oh, my God!

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Oh... Oh, my God!

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A second plane.

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It looks like a second plane
has hit the south tower

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of the World Trade Centre.
(PHONE RINGING)

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of the World Trade Centre.
(PHONE RINGING)

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Oh... Oh...

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My God... Um, it looks
to be a passenger jet.

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(MULTIPLE PHONES RINGING)

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The second plane...

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(SIREN WAILING)

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(NEWSCAST IN DUTCH)

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(SIGHS) Fucking terrorists.

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Good luck with your appeal now, huh?

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Good luck with your appeal now, huh?

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GEORGE W. BUSH:
These acts of mass murder

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were intended to frighten our nation
into chaos and retreat.

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were intended to frighten our nation
into chaos and retreat.

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But they have failed.

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(SPEAKING ITALIAN)
(SPEAKING GERMAN)

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(SPEAKING RUSSIAN)
(SPEAKING FRENCH)

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(SPEAKING RUSSIAN)
(SPEAKING FRENCH)

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These terrorists
will regard us all as targets.

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REPORTER: More Muslim terror.

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REPORTER 2: Forget political
correctness.

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REPORTER 2: Forget political
correctness.

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Racially profile...
Racial factor.

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REPORTER 3: ..number of hate crimes-

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REPORTER 5: Four attempted arson
attacks on Arab businesses.

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REPORTER 6: Muslims threatened with
gunfire.The target of hate-

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REPORTER 6: Muslims threatened with
gunfire.The target of hate-

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ALL CLIPS:War on terror.
War on terror.Terrorist.Terrorist.

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Terrorism must be
fought resolutely.

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GEORGE W. BUSH: We will find
those who did it.

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GEORGE W. BUSH: We will find
those who did it.

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We'll smoke them out of their holes
and we'll bring them to justice.

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After a year of witnesses
testifying,

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al-Megrahi's appeal
against his life sentence

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al-Megrahi's appeal
against his life sentence

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was refused earlier today

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by a panel of five judges
at Camp Zeist, who concluded

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that none of the grounds
of his appeal were well-founded.

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that none of the grounds
of his appeal were well-founded.

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No surprises there.

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Mr Al Megrahi has been
flown to Scotland,

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Mr Al Megrahi has been
flown to Scotland,

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where he will serve
his 20-year life term

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here at Barlinnie Prison,
outside Glasgow.

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(INMATES CLAMOURING)

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(BANGING)

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INMATE: You better fucking
watch yourself.

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INMATE: You better fucking
watch yourself.

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INMATE 2: Youse gonna die,
you dirty rag-head!

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(BANGING)

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INMATE 3: Welcome to Scotland.
You're screwed, pal.

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INMATE 3: Welcome to Scotland.
You're screwed, pal.

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(CLAMOURING CONTINUES)

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If you want room service,
just ring.

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How are you, darling?

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How are you, darling?

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Exhausted.

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Sleep-deprived.
(WHISPERS) Doesn't show.

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Much.
(LAUGHS)

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Much.
(LAUGHS)

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(BABY COOING)

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Do you mind her being in here?

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Her name's Isabel, Jim.

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Her name's Isabel, Jim.

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It's a bit odd,

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but I know why you've done it.

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I want this room used again.

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How are you, Dad?

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JIM: Oh, you know...

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JIM: Oh, you know...

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No, I don't.

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It's very difficult, obviously.

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It's very difficult, obviously.

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Megrahi lost his appeal.

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He's in prison now over-Shall
we go downstairs, let her sleep?

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But trying to get any information
about how he is,

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But trying to get any information
about how he is,

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is proving impossible.You're still
convinced of his innocence?

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Of course.

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Of course.

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You only have to
look at his failed appeal.

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All kinds of new evidence heard,

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new information about
the shopkeeper, Heathrow.

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You know there was a break-in?
He has to appeal again.

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You know there was a break-in?
He has to appeal again.

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Jim! Jim!He has to show-
Jim, please.

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(PHONE RINGING)

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(SCOFFS)
(WHISPERS INDISTINCTLY)

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Hello?
Hey, Jim. Good news.

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I've just heard Megrahi is being
granted application

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I've just heard Megrahi is being
granted application

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for a second appeal.
Oh, that is fantastic.

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He's also got rid of his legal team,
hired a new lawyer, Roddy McGill.

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He was with Fhimah's defence team.
Yeah, well, Megrahi is obviously

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He was with Fhimah's defence team.
Yeah, well, Megrahi is obviously

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hoping for the Midas touch.
Also, Jim,

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I found a detective who was
on the original investigation.

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He wants to talk. Oh, I've gotta go.

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He wants to talk. Oh, I've gotta go.

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(CLEARS THROAT)

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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

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Bryan?

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What the hell are you doing here?

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I said no.
Oh, you phoned me...

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Aye, then I thought better of it.
Now, fuck off.

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Aye, then I thought better of it.
Now, fuck off.

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Look, I remember talking to you
a few weeks after Lockerbie

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about the FBI, CIA. Possible
interference in the investigation.

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about the FBI, CIA. Possible
interference in the investigation.

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Evidence tampering.
I...

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I can't speak to you.
I'm still with the force.

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Why call me out of the blue
14 years later?

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You know there's been
a cover-up, don't you?

244
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You know there's been
a cover-up, don't you?

245
00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,200
You're looking in the wrong place.

246
00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,920
What do you mean?

247
00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,240
Bryan...

248
00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,680
What do you mean?

249
00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,000
What do you mean?

250
00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,200
What do you mean?

251
00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,000
Your source pan out?

252
00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,200
Your source pan out?

253
00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,080
Uh, no. He got spooked.

254
00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,880
But, um, I'll give it
a couple more days

255
00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,000
and try again.

256
00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:48,840
and try again.

257
00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,920
I'd drop it, Guthrie.
There are bigger things going on.

258
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(MELANCHOLIC MUSIC)

259
00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,840
(MELANCHOLIC MUSIC)

260
00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:41,320
(HORN HONKING)

261
00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,000
(DOOR KNOCK, OPENS)
Mr McGill.

262
00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,760
(DOOR KNOCK, OPENS)
Mr McGill.

263
00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,760
I've got a Jim Swire here.

264
00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,800
It's very good to meet you,
Mr McGill.

265
00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,000
Congratulations on getting
Fhimah off.

266
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:00,480
Congratulations on getting
Fhimah off.

267
00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,240
(CHUCKLES) Well, we're hoping
for a repeat performance.

268
00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,440
Um... Shona Randall,
my senior associate.

269
00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,000
John Ashton, our researcher.

270
00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,640
John Ashton, our researcher.

271
00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,360
As you can see, we're targeting
the prosecution's weak spots.

272
00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,000
Tony Gauci being a big one.

273
00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,400
Tony Gauci being a big one.

274
00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,960
I see you have
Robert Baer's name there.

275
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,760
Ex-CIA case officer who was
based in the Middle East.

276
00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,000
You certainly need to talk to him.

277
00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:24,720
You certainly need to talk to him.

278
00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,240
What he says in that book about
Iran being behind the bomb

279
00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,680
is potentially game-changing.
Yeah, I know.

280
00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,000
But I've had no response
from him or his publisher.

281
00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:32,160
But I've had no response
from him or his publisher.

282
00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,160
I do know he happens to have
a book tour coming up.

283
00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,000
What are Megrahi's chances?
I'd say it's pretty good.

284
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:40,760
What are Megrahi's chances?
I'd say it's pretty good.

285
00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,960
But it's up to the Scottish Criminal
Cases Review Commission, not us.

286
00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,160
I will never understand it.

287
00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,000
The prosecution built
its entire case around the claim

288
00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,840
The prosecution built
its entire case around the claim

289
00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,320
that they acted together.
I mean, even the UN observer

290
00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,400
and the trial questioned how judges
came up with guilty in one case

291
00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,000
and not guilty in the other.
Well, we need to make sure

292
00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:56,800
and not guilty in the other.
Well, we need to make sure

293
00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,480
the Review Commission
sees the absurdity of that.

294
00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,440
It's a total miscarriage of justice.

295
00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,000
As you can see, Dr Swire, we're in
the midst of doing exactly that.

296
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,080
As you can see, Dr Swire, we're in
the midst of doing exactly that.

297
00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,000
I want to visit Mr Megrahi.

298
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:12,480
I want to visit Mr Megrahi.

299
00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,720
I fought long and hard
for that trial.

300
00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,000
I want to meet him.

301
00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,960
I want to meet him.

302
00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,280
All that blood on his hands.

303
00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,000
How can you, of all people,

304
00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,960
How can you, of all people,

305
00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000
be able to be in the same room
as him?

306
00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,000
(DOOR UNLOCKING)

307
00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000
(DOOR UNLOCKING)

308
00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,640
(DOOR OPENS)

309
00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,640
(DOOR CLOSES)

310
00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,920
(HANDCUFFS CLICK)

311
00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,720
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

312
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,000
(DOOR CLOSES, LOCKS)

313
00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,760
(DOOR CLOSES, LOCKS)

314
00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,320
(MUSIC STOPS)

315
00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,440
Did you kill my daughter?

316
00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,720
No.

317
00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,000
I did not.

318
00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:48,680
I did not.

319
00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,000
Forgive me.
I had to hear you say it.

320
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,120
Forgive me.
I had to hear you say it.

321
00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,120
Sometimes...

322
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,120
..it is best to be direct.

323
00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,000
You must have other questions.

324
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,520
You must have other questions.

325
00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,560
Ask.

326
00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,800
How are you?

327
00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,000
I will spend 20 years
in a foreign jail for a...

328
00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,120
I will spend 20 years
in a foreign jail for a...

329
00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,440
crime I did not commit.

330
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,000
My family have had to
move to this foreign country

331
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,320
My family have had to
move to this foreign country

332
00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:24,680
where they are abused
and attacked daily.

333
00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:28,000
I can't imagine what it must be
like for you, being in here.

334
00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,360
I can't imagine what it must be
like for you, being in here.

335
00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,640
With your family having
to suffer that.

336
00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,360
Especially knowing what I know now.
What do you know now?

337
00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,000
That the case against you is a sham.

338
00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,160
That the case against you is a sham.

339
00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,040
A travesty of justice.

340
00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,480
And I will do everything in my power

341
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,920
to help you, Mr Megrahi.

342
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,000
Get your conviction overturned.

343
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,120
Get your conviction overturned.

344
00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,440
I... (CLEARS THROAT)

345
00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,480
I am intrigued.

346
00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,960
It is to absolve your guilt?

347
00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,960
Like I said, Dr Swire,
sometimes it's best to be direct.

348
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,320
You are here partly
because of my actions.

349
00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,280
Not a day goes by without
my bitterly regretting that.

350
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,000
I was led to believe that the
evidence against you was watertight.

351
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,160
I was led to believe that the
evidence against you was watertight.

352
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,520
Incontestable.
Yes.

353
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,880
They did their best.

354
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,000
They lied, deceived.

355
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,320
They lied, deceived.

356
00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:19,920
They succeeded.

357
00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,120
Dr Swire...

358
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,600
my country Libya is paying
for my legal fees.

359
00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,000
I have new legal team
after the failure...

360
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,200
I have new legal team
after the failure...

361
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,400
..of my first appeal.

362
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,760
So, please tell me,

363
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,000
why do I need you to help me?

364
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000
why do I need you to help me?

365
00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,360
What do you expect, Dr Swire?

366
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,000
I would embrace you as my saviour?

367
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,600
I would embrace you as my saviour?

368
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,640
No, that's not what I expect at all.

369
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,000
I have to do something.

370
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:56,760
I have to do something.

371
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,880
Because if you do not...

372
00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,520
we may never find out
who killed your daughter.

373
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,000
Yes.

374
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,680
Yes.

375
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,760
So in truth, it's not about
me at all, is it, Dr Swire?

376
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,840
Perhaps not.

377
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000
Not entirely.

378
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,720
I wear this badge for my daughter.

379
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,000
And now wear it also for you,
Mr Megrahi.

380
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,640
And now wear it also for you,
Mr Megrahi.

381
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,960
And simply for what it says.

382
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,000
The truth must be known.

383
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,720
The truth must be known.

384
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,000
Please...

385
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,400
Please...

386
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,560
..call me Baset.

387
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,000
I thought I might find you here.

388
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,240
I thought I might find you here.

389
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,960
You're hard to get hold
of these days.

390
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,840
Good to see you, Jim.

391
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,000
How long has it been? Nearly a year?
Something like that.

392
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,560
How long has it been? Nearly a year?
Something like that.

393
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,640
You on your way to Skye?
I visited Barlinnie this morning.

394
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,000
You never cease to amaze.

395
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,840
You never cease to amaze.

396
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,280
What if I got you
an interview with Baset?

397
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,000
Baset?I can arrange it.
I can speak to him,

398
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:24,960
Baset?I can arrange it.
I can speak to him,

399
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,440
speak to his appeal team-
Megrahi's not news, Jim.

400
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,000
The last time I wrote
anything about Lockerbie,

401
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,320
The last time I wrote
anything about Lockerbie,

402
00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:34,440
buried on page eight, two columns.

403
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,400
The world and my editor wants
9/11 and the war on terror.

404
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,000
(CHUCKLE) I'm being left behind.
You can interview both of us.

405
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,120
(CHUCKLE) I'm being left behind.
You can interview both of us.

406
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,160
The father of Flora Swire and the
innocent man convicted of her murder.

407
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,360
Then the press would
murder you, Jim.

408
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,000
Believe me, that's not
the exposure you're wanting.

409
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,320
Believe me, that's not
the exposure you're wanting.

410
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,080
The... Look, Jim...

411
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,000
(CLEARS THROAT AND INHALES)

412
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,640
(CLEARS THROAT AND INHALES)

413
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,520
The thing is,

414
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,160
most people think he did it.

415
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,640
And now, most people
just want to forget.

416
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,240
Bye, darling. Take care. Love you.
Drive safely now.

417
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,000
I do.
(ENGINE STARTS)

418
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080
I do.
(ENGINE STARTS)

419
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,000
(CAR DOOR OPENS AND CLOSES)

420
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,800
(CAR DOOR OPENS AND CLOSES)

421
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,560
How was Cathy? Isabel?

422
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,000
What?

423
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,520
What?

424
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,160
It saddens me you have to ask that.

425
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:31,120
They're fine, Jim.

426
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,320
How is he?

427
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,000
Struggling.

428
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,320
Struggling.

429
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,320
I think he appreciated my visit.

430
00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,120
Did you not want me to go?

431
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:56,000
I'm not sure it matters
what I say anymore.

432
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,920
I'm not sure it matters
what I say anymore.

433
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,840
He's all you talk about.
You know that, don't you?

434
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,000
I'm trying to get him freed.

435
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,040
I'm trying to get him freed.

436
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,080
Hmm.

437
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,960
You've not asked one of us
directly what we think.

438
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,680
You've never wanted to sit down
and discuss it as a family.

439
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,120
You just assume we're behind you,
supporting you.

440
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,000
Is that what the children think?

441
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,440
Is that what the children think?

442
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,400
Well, why can't they just
come and speak to me?

443
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,000
Because they don't think
you listen, Jim, and you don't.

444
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,320
Because they don't think
you listen, Jim, and you don't.

445
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,200
You haven't noticed
they hardly come here anymore.

446
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,000
There are too many bad memories.

447
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,800
There are too many bad memories.

448
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,360
But this- this is where they grew up.
This is where they all grew up.

449
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,920
I think we should move.

450
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,000
I'm not leaving this house!

451
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,160
I'm not leaving this house!

452
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,240
I want to be closer to my
children, to my grandchildren.

453
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,360
I want to be around life,
not death.

454
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,000
Not- Not death every
single minute of the day.

455
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,040
Not- Not death every
single minute of the day.

456
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,880
Would I rejoin the CIA
if I was asked?

457
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000
With all due respect,

458
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,040
With all due respect,

459
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,200
have you read any of my books?
(LAUGHTER)

460
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,240
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

461
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Thank you.

462
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,000
Jim Swire,
as I live and breathe.

463
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,600
Jim Swire,
as I live and breathe.

464
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,920
Professional thorn in the side,
just like me.

465
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,760
How are you?
It's good to meet you, Bob.

466
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,840
This is John Ashton
from Megrahi's appeal team.

467
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,000
Of course.
Let me finish up here.

468
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,440
Of course.
Let me finish up here.

469
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,040
I'll meet you guys in
the next room to this in ten.

470
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,280
No prying ears.

471
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,000
Damn good to meet you, Jim.

472
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:48,160
Damn good to meet you, Jim.

473
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,760
Look, Lockerbie is very simple.
It was Iran's revenge.

474
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,960
For the Americans
shooting down their Airbus?

475
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Like I say in the book, the CIA
had known about it all along.

476
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,440
Like I say in the book, the CIA
had known about it all along.

477
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,840
The bombing of Flight 103
was conceived,

478
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,920
authorized and financed by Iran.

479
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,000
They paid the Syrian-based
PFLP-GC to do it.

480
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,960
They paid the Syrian-based
PFLP-GC to do it.

481
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,960
The bomb was made
by a PFLP-GC bomb maker,

482
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,800
a Jordanian named Marwan Khreesat.

483
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,000
We know that they were
raided by German police

484
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,520
We know that they were
raided by German police

485
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,120
in October 1988.The Autumn
Leaves operation.Yeah.

486
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,880
They arrested
some of their main players,

487
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,520
but others slipped through the net.

488
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,000
They only found four
explosive devices.

489
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,960
They only found four
explosive devices.

490
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,240
Lost track of the fifth.

491
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,800
I believe that was the bomb
that killed your daughter, Jim.

492
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,000
Your guy, Megrahi,

493
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,720
Your guy, Megrahi,

494
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,280
had nothing to do with it.

495
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,400
You talk about a meeting.

496
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,160
The Iranians met with
the PFLP-GC people in Beirut.

497
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,000
We had telephone intercepts
of them discussing it.

498
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,040
We had telephone intercepts
of them discussing it.

499
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,000
Two days after Lockerbie,

500
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,000
Iran transferred $11 million
into a PFLP-GC bank account.

501
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,960
Iran transferred $11 million
into a PFLP-GC bank account.

502
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040
We have records of the transfer.

503
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,200
Hell, we had ironclad proof.

504
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,760
Handed over our intel to the US
Administration. What did they do?

505
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,000
One look, quietly shelved it.

506
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,120
One look, quietly shelved it.

507
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,040
Why?
There were bigger problems.

508
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,000
Like Saddam Hussein.

509
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,000
Once he invaded Kuwait in 1990,
suddenly everything changed.

510
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,400
Once he invaded Kuwait in 1990,
suddenly everything changed.

511
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,000
We were at war, and we needed
Iran and Syria on our side,

512
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,200
so the heat was off them,
sands shifted.

513
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,000
They pointed the finger at Libya.
A rogue state,

514
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,840
They pointed the finger at Libya.
A rogue state,

515
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,640
proven terrorist links, developing
weapons of mass destruction.

516
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,440
Gaddafi was the top of our hit list.

517
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,680
Plus, we needed to throw
some kind of bone

518
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,000
to the victims' grieving families.

519
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,720
to the victims' grieving families.

520
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,320
Libya was that bone.

521
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,040
This has to go
into the submission, John.

522
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,040
The Review Commission have to know
about this.Would you speak to them?

523
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,800
Go on the record?
Sure.

524
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,000
I'll talk to whoever you want,
but it won't make a difference.

525
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,320
I'll talk to whoever you want,
but it won't make a difference.

526
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,440
Right now, Libya is
right where we want them.

527
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,920
Tomorrow, that could all be flipped.

528
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,000
Libya has oil, remember.

529
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,320
Libya has oil, remember.

530
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,520
Suddenly Gaddafi will be back in
favour,

531
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,560
or he'll buy his way back
into favour.

532
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,000
And Megrahi will stay guilty
for as long as they need him to.

533
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,240
And Megrahi will stay guilty
for as long as they need him to.

534
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,240
It's all transactional, Jim,
so tread carefully.

535
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,000
You don't want to be on loose
footing when the sands shift.

536
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,480
You don't want to be on loose
footing when the sands shift.

537
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,000
RODERICK: There it is, our full
report ready to be submitted

538
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,520
RODERICK: There it is, our full
report ready to be submitted

539
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,920
to the Scottish Criminal
Cases Review Commission.

540
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,400
Where's the champagne, then?
(LAUGHTER)

541
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,240
On ice. For now, it's the pub.

542
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,000
We have to get it accepted first.

543
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,720
We have to get it accepted first.

544
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,440
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

545
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,000
We appreciate what you've
gone through to help out.

546
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,240
We appreciate what you've
gone through to help out.

547
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,480
How long will it take
the Review Commission to decide?

548
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,320
Well, they're professionals,
they know what they're doing.

549
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,480
Thank you.

550
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240
It's a man's incarceration
we're talking about.

551
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,000
I'd say a year...

552
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,440
I'd say a year...

553
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,680
..maybe less.

554
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,720
(DOOR SLAMS)

555
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,240
They took their time...

556
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,280
but the Review Commission have
finally

557
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,000
delivered their statement
of reasons.

558
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,600
delivered their statement
of reasons.

559
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,160
(SIGHS)

560
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,880
They rejected all
of our submissions.

561
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,000
(ALL GROANING)
Shit.

562
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,920
(ALL GROANING)
Shit.

563
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,160
Apart from six.

564
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,800
(LAUGHTER)

565
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,000
Six grounds for referral
back to an Appeal Court.

566
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:40,360
Six grounds for referral
back to an Appeal Court.

567
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,960
The first ground of referral.

568
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,520
Unreasonable verdict.

569
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,000
The judges were satisfied
the purchase of clothing

570
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,520
The judges were satisfied
the purchase of clothing

571
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,680
was made from Gauci's shop on
December 7th, 1988,

572
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,720
when Megrahi was in Malta.

573
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,000
But Tony Gauci was never clear
on the exact purchase date.

574
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,920
But Tony Gauci was never clear
on the exact purchase date.

575
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,320
He tell the court a Libyan customer
buy umbrella from his shop

576
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,520
because it's raining outside.

577
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,000
My defence team called
Malta's chief meteorologist...

578
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,160
My defence team called
Malta's chief meteorologist...

579
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,680
Who said there was no rain
on the 7th of December.Yes, but...

580
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,000
there was rain
on the 23rd of November.

581
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,720
there was rain
on the 23rd of November.

582
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,440
The only other potential purchase
date matching Gauci's statement...

583
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,000
and I was not on Malta
on the 23rd of November.

584
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,200
and I was not on Malta
on the 23rd of November.

585
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,120
Baset?
Please...

586
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,080
I must use bathroom.

587
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,960
Referral grounds two and three,

588
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,920
undisclosed evidence relating

589
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,520
to Gauci's identification
of Megrahi,

590
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,000
and the date when the clothes
were purchased from his shop.

591
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,280
and the date when the clothes
were purchased from his shop.

592
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,720
Thank you.

593
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040
When the Commission looked into
this...Everything alright?

594
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,000
..they found that Gauci
actually gave 23 statements,

595
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,320
..they found that Gauci
actually gave 23 statements,

596
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,920
and he was visited by the Scottish
Police, Jim, more than 50 times.

597
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,000
50?
50. You remember,

598
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,840
50?
50. You remember,

599
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,000
only 19 of his statements
were given to my defence team.

600
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,000
The details of these meetings,
they have never been revealed.

601
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,160
The details of these meetings,
they have never been revealed.

602
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,840
What else did Gauci
claim in them, I wonder?

603
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,000
By withholding this information,

604
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,000
the Crown denied the defence
items of real importance...

605
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,560
the Crown denied the defence
items of real importance...

606
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,880
in undermining the Crown case.

607
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,400
Fourth referral.
Undisclosed evidence

608
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,000
about Gauci's interest in rewards.

609
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,680
about Gauci's interest in rewards.

610
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,200
The commission discovered
three Scottish police documents

611
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,760
that suggested that Gauci...

612
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,000
Gauchi was aware
that a substantial reward

613
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,920
Gauchi was aware
that a substantial reward

614
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,280
was an offer from the US Government.

615
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,400
A reward for giving evidence?

616
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,000
Jesus! Did he get paid?

617
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,400
Jesus! Did he get paid?

618
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,160
SHONA: Referral five. Undisclosed
secret intelligence documents.

619
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,000
Last year, the Crown
informed the commission

620
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:40,640
Last year, the Crown
informed the commission

621
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,880
of two classified documents
held at Dumfries police station.

622
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,800
The commission believes
non-disclosure

623
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,000
of one of the documents indicates...

624
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,400
of one of the documents indicates...

625
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,720
that a miscarriage of justice
may have occurred.

626
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,480
That is what we were waiting for.

627
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,360
Music to my ears.

628
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,000
It's all centered, everything,
on Gauci's evidence.

629
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,240
It's all centered, everything,
on Gauci's evidence.

630
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,000
They seem to have dismissed
pretty much everything else.

631
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,800
There's nothing here
about Robert Baer, PFLP-GC.

632
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,000
There's nothing whatsoever
about the timer fragment.

633
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,080
There's nothing whatsoever
about the timer fragment.

634
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,280
(SIGHS)

635
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,000
You're frustrated.

636
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,400
You're frustrated.

637
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,840
I'm happy for you, of course, I am.

638
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000
But there's nothing in here that
helps us discover what did happen.

639
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,040
But there's nothing in here that
helps us discover what did happen.

640
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,520
Nothing that gets us
closer to the truth.

641
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,520
It's, uh...

642
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,600
You would say, one step at a time.

643
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,000
So, Jim, one step at a time.

644
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,760
So, Jim, one step at a time.

645
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,000
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

646
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,160
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

647
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,880
I didn't think I'd see you again.

648
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,720
So you left the Dumfries force?

649
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,240
Megrahi got his second appeal.

650
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,080
Second appeal.
Possible miscarriage of justice.

651
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,000
And the Crown with a hell of
a lot of questions to answer.

652
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,760
And the Crown with a hell of
a lot of questions to answer.

653
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,560
Including one about
undisclosed secret documents

654
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,600
held at your police station.

655
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,520
I'll drive. You talk.

656
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,240
(ENGINE STARTS)

657
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,600
One of these documents is a
letter from the King of Jordan

658
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,000
to the then Prime Minister
John Major,

659
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,600
to the then Prime Minister
John Major,

660
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,280
intimating that the Libyans
were innocent of the crime.

661
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,120
It points the finger at the PFLP-GC
and the bomb maker Marwan Khreesat,

662
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,000
who is believed by many,

663
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000
who is believed by many,

664
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,040
including and according to
Robert Baer and most of the CIA,

665
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,960
to have built the bomb
that brought down Flight 103.

666
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Now, these documents were known
to the Crown during the trial,

667
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,240
Now, these documents were known
to the Crown during the trial,

668
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,240
and they withheld them
from the defence.

669
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,120
We're still not allowed to see them.

670
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,920
So what are we talking about here?

671
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,000
A cover-up? Was Megrahi framed?

672
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,040
A cover-up? Was Megrahi framed?

673
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,440
Whatever it is, they want to keep
it buried. It's mucky as hell.

674
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,680
So why are you still standing here?

675
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,000
Go and talk to people and find out
what they're not telling us.

676
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,400
Go and talk to people and find out
what they're not telling us.

677
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,040
Then write the bloody thing.

678
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,040
(KEYBOARD CLICKING)

679
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,760
Jim, it's Murray.

680
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,600
Good to hear from you, Murray.

681
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,000
Wait till you hear
what I've got for you.

682
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,640
Wait till you hear
what I've got for you.

683
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,320
Front page?
Without a doubt.

684
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,200
What do you mean
we can't publish it?

685
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,000
We want to-
But you can't.

686
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,200
We want to-
But you can't.

687
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,960
Phil Marsden, our lawyer.
Why the hell not?

688
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000
We ran the story past the FCO
for comment. I got a call back

689
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,120
We ran the story past the FCO
for comment. I got a call back

690
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,880
threatening legal action.You don't
think that's just scare tactics?

691
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,080
The Foreign Secretary,
David Miliband,

692
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,000
has issued a public interest
immunity certificate,

693
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000
has issued a public interest
immunity certificate,

694
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,600
a PII.What?
For reasons of national security.

695
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,640
To protect the contents
of certain documents.

696
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,000
These documents your source
is talking about

697
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,360
These documents your source
is talking about

698
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,240
may well be the same ones
Megrahi's defence team

699
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,000
were denied access to under that PII.

700
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,320
were denied access to under that PII.

701
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,480
We're still going to
print it, right?

702
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,000
Publish and be damned and all that?
You'll be damned, and I'll be sued.

703
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,800
Publish and be damned and all that?
You'll be damned, and I'll be sued.

704
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,440
And your legal fees alone will
mean this newspaper goes down.

705
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,520
I just don't get it.
The documents in that safe,

706
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,880
they're over 20 years old.
Makes no matter.

707
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,000
This is the long arm of the state.

708
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,040
This is the long arm of the state.

709
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,280
For national security,
read intelligence services, MI6,

710
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,000
CIA, who knows who else?
Protected like they always are-

711
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,200
CIA, who knows who else?
Protected like they always are-

712
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:35,320
You said you'd publish it.
You phoned me up

713
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,640
and you told me you'd publish it.
Yeah, I know, but-No.

714
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,000
Take it somewhere else. Someone will
print it. Someone not afraid of them.

715
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,960
Take it somewhere else. Someone will
print it. Someone not afraid of them.

716
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,720
Not gonna do that.

717
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,000
Give it to me.

718
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,280
Give it to me.

719
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,080
I will.

720
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,240
I'm not going to let them
get away with it.

721
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,000
This is serious.

722
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,280
This is serious.

723
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,440
You need to see sense.
You could be sued.

724
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,440
I could be sued.

725
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,480
(SIGHS)

726
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:12,000
You ever think this might
be a lost cause, Jim?

727
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,640
You ever think this might
be a lost cause, Jim?

728
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,680
That they will never
allow us to know the truth?

729
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:22,760
I never thought
I'd hear you say that.

730
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,120
(SIGHS)

731
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,000
I'm so sorry, but it's cancer.

732
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,240
I'm so sorry, but it's cancer.

733
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,360
Prostate cancer.

734
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,880
(SPEAKING ARABIC)

735
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,000
GHADA: Will he survive?

736
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,440
GHADA: Will he survive?

737
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,880
I'm afraid I don't know
the answer to that.

738
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,840
I'm sorry.

739
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,000
How is he?

740
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,920
How is he?

741
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,000
(SPEAKING ARABIC)

742
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,440
(SPEAKING ARABIC)

743
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,000
Thank you.

744
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,160
Thank you.

745
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,760
(DOOR CLOSES)

746
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,000
How're you doing?

747
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,240
How're you doing?

748
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Please, go sit down.

749
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,040
OK. I can do it. I can do it.

750
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,960
You have been told?

751
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,440
Yes.

752
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Is it...

753
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,000
severe?

754
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Yes. Yes, it is.

755
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,160
Yes. Yes, it is.

756
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,960
But I've had patients who fought
their cancer, who beat it.

757
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
And you, Baset, you're a fighter.

758
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,960
And you, Baset, you're a fighter.

759
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
Mmm.

760
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,040
I don't want to die here, Jim.

761
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,000
I don't want that either.

762
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,960
I don't want that either.

763
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,560
I don't want my family
to see me die here.

764
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,000
I want to go home to die.

765
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,440
I want to go home to die.

766
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Jim...

767
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,880
Jim...

768
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:52,000
..the UK and Libya are negotiating

769
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,840
..the UK and Libya are negotiating

770
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,440
a prisoner transfer agreement.

771
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,360
I heard.

772
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,000
I will be instructing my Libyan
lawyers to make an application to...

773
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,600
I will be instructing my Libyan
lawyers to make an application to...

774
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:08,000
..return home and serve
whatever time I have left there.

775
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,160
..return home and serve
whatever time I have left there.

776
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,200
And what about your appeal?

777
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,480
You think I would give it up?

778
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:20,160
If Prisoner Transfer is granted,
you'll be in Libya.

779
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,360
Jim...

780
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,400
OK...

781
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,560
..I have said to you before,
I will say it again.

782
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,000
I will not go down in history
as a Lockerbie bomber.

783
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,080
I will not go down in history
as a Lockerbie bomber.

784
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,600
I will not let them do that to me.

785
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,000
I will never give up my appeal.

786
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,880
I will never give up my appeal.

787
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,280
Whether I am here,

788
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,720
in Libya, dead or alive...

789
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,000
my appeal will go to court.

790
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,760
my appeal will go to court.

791
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,400
Trust me and you will get
what you want.

792
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,160
My name will be cleared,

793
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,480
and you will go on and find out
who really did this.

794
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,000
RODERICK: Baset, I'm afraid
there's a problem.

795
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,080
RODERICK: Baset, I'm afraid
there's a problem.

796
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:27,240
Under Scottish law...

797
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,240
..to be considered for a PT,

798
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,800
a prisoner can't have
an appeal ongoing.

799
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080
You'd have to give it up.

800
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Baset, there is another way.

801
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,600
Baset, there is another way.

802
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,560
You're released
on compassionate grounds.

803
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,520
You'll be examined
by three separate doctors

804
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,000
who will decide...

805
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,760
who will decide...

806
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,840
how long you have to live.

807
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,160
And if it's less than three months,

808
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,000
then there's a good possibility

809
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,520
then there's a good possibility

810
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,200
that you will return home
and you can keep your appeal.

811
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,000
These are the options.

812
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,560
These are the options.

813
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,800
You must decide.

814
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,800
MACASKILL: Well, we have beliefs
and values in Scotland that

815
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,000
those who perpetrate crimes,
certainly heinous atrocities

816
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,640
those who perpetrate crimes,
certainly heinous atrocities

817
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,640
such as this,
should be brought to justice.

818
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,320
That has been done.

819
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Equally, we recognise that justice
has to be tempered by mercy.

820
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,800
Equally, we recognise that justice
has to be tempered by mercy.

821
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,320
That there has to be
the ability to recognise

822
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,240
that although he did not show
compassion to the victims,

823
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,000
that doesn't mean that we should
lower our beliefs, or our values.

824
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,480
that doesn't mean that we should
lower our beliefs, or our values.

825
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,440
REPORTER: A campaign for
the release of the man

826
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
convicted of the Lockerbie bombing
was launched today.

827
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,000
Justice for Megrahi is appealing
for the early release

828
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,760
Justice for Megrahi is appealing
for the early release

829
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,880
of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi
on compassionate grounds.

830
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,840
I just think it is absolutely
wrong to release someone

831
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,000
who has been imprisoned
based on evidence,

832
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,160
who has been imprisoned
based on evidence,

833
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,920
about his involvement
in such a horrendous crime.

834
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,000
DAVID CAMERON: I think this is
a very bad decision.

835
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,000
DAVID CAMERON: I think this is
a very bad decision.

836
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,440
This man was convicted
of murdering 270 people.

837
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,840
REPORTER 2: Some claim economic
influences were key

838
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,000
to the deal struck by Tony Blair
and Colonel Gaddafi

839
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,360
to the deal struck by Tony Blair
and Colonel Gaddafi

840
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,840
on the potential release
of the Lockerbie bomber,

841
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,080
the so-called "deal in the desert."

842
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,000
RAEBURN: The fact that Libyan
oil reserves are now understood

843
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,680
RAEBURN: The fact that Libyan
oil reserves are now understood

844
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:17,080
to be far greater than they may have
thought to have been in the past...

845
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,840
shouldn't be overlooked.

846
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,000
JIM: Megrahi will continue
with his appeal,

847
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,880
JIM: Megrahi will continue
with his appeal,

848
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,880
and regardless of opinion
on his conviction,

849
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,800
the Justice For Megrahi campaign
urges the Scottish government

850
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000
to send Mr Megrahi back to Libya
on compassionate grounds.

851
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,280
to send Mr Megrahi back to Libya
on compassionate grounds.

852
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Jim, take it off.

853
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,080
Jim, take it off.

854
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,320
Please. Not here. Not today.

855
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,400
I'm not ashamed.

856
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,000
I'll look them in the eye.
For us...?

857
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,360
I'll look them in the eye.
For us...?

858
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,560
Do it for us.

859
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,720
WOMAN: John Michael Gerard Ahern.

860
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,920
Sarah Margaret Aicher.

861
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,320
John David Ackerstrom.

862
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,720
Ronald Ely Alexander.

863
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:16,000
Thomas Joseph Ammerman.

864
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Thomas Joseph Ammerman.

865
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,720
Bridget Concannon.
(BELL TOLLS)

866
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,680
Thomas Concannon.

867
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:24,000
MAN: Roger Elwood Hurst.

868
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,120
MAN: Roger Elwood Hurst.

869
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,720
Elizabeth Sophie Ivell.

870
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Andrew Alexander Teran.

871
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,280
Andrew Alexander Teran.

872
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,840
Arva Anthony Thomas.

873
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,040
Jonathan Ryan Thomas.

874
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,000
WOMAN 2: Flora McDonald
Margaret Swire.

875
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,120
WOMAN 2: Flora McDonald
Margaret Swire.

876
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,000
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

877
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

878
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,880
WOMAN: I don't know what
he thinks he's doing.

879
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,000
MAN: This should be about
remembrance, not politics.

880
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,400
MAN: This should be about
remembrance, not politics.

881
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,760
MAN 2: I can't believe he's here.

882
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,000
WOMAN 2: It's a disgrace.
He's befriended a killer.

883
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,280
WOMAN 2: It's a disgrace.
He's befriended a killer.

884
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,960
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

885
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,080
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

886
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,680
JANE: Lovely to see you again.

887
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,760
Four grandkids myself actually.
Yeah.

888
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,640
Is it Ellen?

889
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,440
Jane's spoken a lot about you.
Sorry. This is Jim, my husband.

890
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,640
Yes, I know. Hello, Jim.

891
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,400
Look, I'm sorry, I think we're
running low on hot water.

892
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,720
I'll see you shortly.

893
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,000
Um, I'd like to go.

894
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,040
Um, I'd like to go.

895
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,000
BERT: Everyone here agrees
with me, the world agrees.

896
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:16,160
BERT: Everyone here agrees
with me, the world agrees.

897
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,800
Releasing Megrahi would be insane,
immoral, reprehensible.

898
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,200
He has to serve his time
here in Scotland.

899
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:24,000
Then they can send his ashes
back to Libya in a casket.

900
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,320
Then they can send his ashes
back to Libya in a casket.

901
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,680
Jim. Jim!

902
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,880
Can't you see it from their
point of view for one second?

903
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,040
It is so completely irrational.

904
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,240
Who are you to decide
what's rational or irrational?

905
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,000
Maybe this appeal isn't rational
to them.

906
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,160
Maybe this appeal isn't rational
to them.

907
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,000
Maybe none of this is rational

908
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,640
to people who process their
grief by moving forwards

909
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,000
rather than scrambling around
in the past.

910
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,720
rather than scrambling around
in the past.

911
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,600
They're hurt and they're angry.

912
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,720
And completely fixated on one man.
Oh, not like you, then?

913
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:10,800
That's how they cope.

914
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,000
This is how you cope.
I am not coping.

915
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,560
This is how you cope.
I am not coping.

916
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Oh, yes, of course. You're doing
this for Flora. What you always say.

917
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,000
But it's not about Flora
anymore, Jim.

918
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,480
But it's not about Flora
anymore, Jim.

919
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,120
It's not even about him.
(DOOR OPENING)

920
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,000
You have visitors.

921
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,520
You have visitors.

922
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,280
You're just doing anything
you can to avoid grieving.

923
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,560
That is simply not true.
Jim!

924
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,000
You can't sit still.

925
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,480
You can't sit still.

926
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,360
You can't be silent for one moment
to take in what happened to us.

927
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:44,000
If you did, then you'd
see the- the damage.

928
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,240
If you did, then you'd
see the- the damage.

929
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,200
You're saying this is my fault?
No. I'm to blame, too.

930
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,280
But you're missing everything, Jim.

931
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,560
We need you now
before it's too late.

932
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,320
(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

933
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,880
Baset has promised me
he's committed to fighting this.

934
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,440
(SPEAKING ARABIC)

935
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,000
Once his appeal is over,

936
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,720
Once his appeal is over,

937
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,120
we will find out who really did this.

938
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,200
(SPEAKING ARABIC)

939
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,440
(DRAMATIC MUSIC SWELLS)

940
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,120
(MUSIC STOPS)

941
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,600
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