1 00:00:39,906 --> 00:00:42,475 {\an8}Go and have the time of your life. 2 00:00:42,575 --> 00:00:44,077 {\an8}WILL: A newsflash. 3 00:00:45,812 --> 00:00:47,313 {\an8}Plane's gone down. 4 00:00:54,888 --> 00:00:56,222 - Murray Guthrie. - Jim Swire. 5 00:00:56,322 --> 00:00:57,857 Full disclosure, I'm a journalist. 6 00:00:57,957 --> 00:01:00,293 JIM: They say in the press it may have been Iran, revenge attack. 7 00:01:00,393 --> 00:01:02,495 MURRAY: Anonymous phone call made to the US Embassy. 8 00:01:02,595 --> 00:01:04,164 Embassy dismissed it as a hoax. 9 00:01:04,264 --> 00:01:07,000 JIM: Your government knew. They all knew. 10 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:08,601 JANE: I have nightmares. 11 00:01:09,669 --> 00:01:12,405 Was our daughter conscious as she fell through the sky? 12 00:01:12,505 --> 00:01:15,275 JIM: How did a bomb get through airport security 13 00:01:15,375 --> 00:01:16,609 and onto Flight 103? 14 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:18,778 Why is there so much secrecy around this? 15 00:01:18,878 --> 00:01:21,648 JANE: Are we ever going to know what really happened? 16 00:01:21,748 --> 00:01:23,016 JIM: I will never stop. 17 00:01:23,116 --> 00:01:24,784 Not until we know the answer to everything. 18 00:01:45,305 --> 00:01:47,073 {\an8}JIM ON VOICEMAIL: You've reached the Swire household. 19 00:01:47,173 --> 00:01:48,942 {\an8}We're not home to take your call at the moment. 20 00:01:49,042 --> 00:01:50,944 {\an8}Please leave a message after the beep 21 00:01:51,044 --> 00:01:52,946 {\an8}- and we'll get back to you. - (BEEP) 22 00:01:53,046 --> 00:01:55,382 Oh, hi, Jim. Murray here. 23 00:01:55,482 --> 00:01:57,017 I hope you're sitting down, 24 00:01:57,117 --> 00:02:00,387 because I've just heard Thatcher's ordered an independent inquiry 25 00:02:01,321 --> 00:02:04,157 into the Strangeways Prison riot. 26 00:02:04,257 --> 00:02:07,360 Sum total of deaths, two. 27 00:02:07,460 --> 00:02:10,730 So we now have inquiries into the Clapham Junction crash, 28 00:02:10,830 --> 00:02:11,898 35 deaths, 29 00:02:11,998 --> 00:02:14,401 the King's Cross fire, 31 deaths, 30 00:02:14,501 --> 00:02:17,871 and the Piper Alpha disaster, 167 deaths. 31 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:19,773 But bugger all for Lockerbie. 32 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,510 Bugger all for 270 dead. 33 00:02:25,311 --> 00:02:26,813 I mean... (LAUGHS INCREDULOUSLY) 34 00:02:26,913 --> 00:02:29,015 ...what is it with these people? 35 00:02:29,115 --> 00:02:32,852 What the hell do you have to do to make them sit up and take notice? 36 00:02:32,952 --> 00:02:35,689 Actually get off their arses and do something? 37 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:38,491 What is it they're hiding? 38 00:02:38,591 --> 00:02:40,760 (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) 39 00:02:46,032 --> 00:02:49,369 (INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER PA) 40 00:03:03,717 --> 00:03:04,851 What's going on? 41 00:03:04,951 --> 00:03:07,220 Security spot checks on luggage. 42 00:03:13,727 --> 00:03:15,729 OFFICER: Am I okay to look inside? 43 00:03:15,829 --> 00:03:16,863 Yes. 44 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:21,801 Where are you flying to, sir? 45 00:03:21,901 --> 00:03:23,870 Boston, via JFK. 46 00:03:37,584 --> 00:03:39,819 Have you taken the batteries out, sir? 47 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:40,920 We have new safety rules. 48 00:03:42,022 --> 00:03:43,823 Yes. Yeah, I have. Mm-hmm. 49 00:03:49,095 --> 00:03:50,430 Thank you. 50 00:03:51,598 --> 00:03:52,799 Have a safe flight. 51 00:03:55,602 --> 00:03:56,770 (OFFICER CLEARS THROAT) 52 00:04:13,853 --> 00:04:15,989 - Sorry, the traffic. - JANE: Hello, darling. 53 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:18,958 - Don't worry. How are you? - Good. How are you? 54 00:04:19,059 --> 00:04:20,393 JANE: (CHUCKLES) Good. 55 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:22,395 (DOOR CLOSES) 56 00:04:27,901 --> 00:04:29,369 Oh, it was a gift. 57 00:04:29,469 --> 00:04:33,773 Flora's boyfriend's father painted it and sent it over for us. 58 00:04:33,873 --> 00:04:35,942 He's really caught her, don't you think? 59 00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:43,416 You don't think there's enough reminders? 60 00:04:50,490 --> 00:04:51,791 It's not Flora. 61 00:04:59,566 --> 00:05:01,935 Dad made it to the airport all right? 62 00:05:02,035 --> 00:05:03,203 Oh... Oh, yeah. 63 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:06,239 Did you get any sleep last night? 64 00:05:07,007 --> 00:05:09,909 - (SNIFFLES) - Hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. 65 00:05:11,211 --> 00:05:13,113 Sit down and put your feet up. 66 00:05:13,213 --> 00:05:15,648 I'll take those bags upstairs, and then I'll make us some tea. 67 00:05:17,784 --> 00:05:18,785 Okay? 68 00:05:29,929 --> 00:05:31,931 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 69 00:05:53,219 --> 00:05:56,456 - (EXPLOSION) - (PEOPLE SCREAMING) 70 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:05,598 (SCREAMS) 71 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:08,835 (SCREAMS, PANTS) 72 00:06:10,904 --> 00:06:11,905 You okay? 73 00:06:17,077 --> 00:06:19,579 Mum, please. Will you go and speak to someone? 74 00:06:19,679 --> 00:06:22,916 It's okay. I'm fine. I'm fine, Cathy. I'm fine. 75 00:06:24,918 --> 00:06:25,952 It's fine. 76 00:06:38,131 --> 00:06:39,432 (SIGHS) 77 00:06:50,543 --> 00:06:53,513 (INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER PA) 78 00:07:25,645 --> 00:07:26,813 Hello, Jim. 79 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:29,182 It's good to see you. 80 00:07:29,282 --> 00:07:32,385 Everyone's excited to finally meet you in person. 81 00:07:32,485 --> 00:07:34,988 JIM: My very own homemade version 82 00:07:36,623 --> 00:07:40,760 of the bomb which blew up Flight 103. 83 00:07:42,696 --> 00:07:44,831 You brought that with you on a plane? 84 00:07:45,365 --> 00:07:47,033 Is that Semtex? 85 00:07:47,867 --> 00:07:51,204 A very pliable, odorless plastic explosive 86 00:07:51,304 --> 00:07:54,974 favored by paramilitary groups and terrorists. 87 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:00,747 I used marzipan. 88 00:08:02,215 --> 00:08:03,450 Jim, I'm sorry. 89 00:08:03,550 --> 00:08:04,918 Are you out of your mind? 90 00:08:05,018 --> 00:08:06,353 How many times have we been told 91 00:08:06,453 --> 00:08:07,687 that airport security has improved, 92 00:08:07,787 --> 00:08:09,222 that a bomb would never get onto a plane nowadays? 93 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:11,424 Yeah, sure. But is this the way to call them out? 94 00:08:11,524 --> 00:08:14,060 Dan, a security officer at Heathrow picked it up, looked at it, 95 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,428 and wished me a safe onward journey. 96 00:08:15,528 --> 00:08:17,764 I got through three sets of security checks 97 00:08:17,864 --> 00:08:20,900 to get here via JFK. I wasn't stopped once. 98 00:08:24,204 --> 00:08:27,040 Now I'm sorry if this upsets some of you. 99 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:30,176 I wanted it to be impossible for me to do this, believe me. 100 00:08:31,311 --> 00:08:32,846 The fact is, it wasn't. 101 00:08:34,314 --> 00:08:35,682 And people need to know. 102 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:44,924 REPORTER: William, did you know about the fake bomb? 103 00:08:45,025 --> 00:08:46,860 Did you know about the fake bomb? 104 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,462 Do you agree with what your father's done? 105 00:08:49,562 --> 00:08:52,132 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 106 00:08:52,232 --> 00:08:56,803 {\an8}Incredible, audacious, an act of gross stupidity. 107 00:08:56,903 --> 00:08:59,472 {\an8}Just some of the reactions to Dr. Jim Swire, 108 00:08:59,572 --> 00:09:02,642 spokesman for UK Families Flight 103. 109 00:09:02,742 --> 00:09:05,979 Why? Because he built a fake bomb in his home 110 00:09:06,079 --> 00:09:07,981 - and carried it in a suitcase... - Did you know about this? 111 00:09:08,081 --> 00:09:10,483 - ...on a flight from London to New York. - No. 112 00:09:10,583 --> 00:09:12,318 The same route on which his daughter, 113 00:09:12,419 --> 00:09:14,187 Flora, was killed. 114 00:09:14,287 --> 00:09:16,723 JIM: If I was a terrorist, another plane would have been blown out of the sky. 115 00:09:16,823 --> 00:09:18,992 Hundreds more innocent people would have been murdered. 116 00:09:19,092 --> 00:09:22,462 NEWSCASTER: Twenty-four hours since touching down in the US, 117 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:24,164 Dr. Swire has-- 118 00:09:24,264 --> 00:09:26,433 The Midlands doctor, whose daughter died in the Lockerbie plane bomb-- 119 00:09:26,533 --> 00:09:30,170 {\an8}I cannot stress strongly enough this government's determination 120 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:34,007 to enforce the highest standards of aviation security... 121 00:09:34,107 --> 00:09:37,077 ...and we will be speaking to Dr. Swire 122 00:09:37,177 --> 00:09:39,045 on his return to the UK. 123 00:09:39,713 --> 00:09:42,015 (INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER PA) 124 00:10:02,068 --> 00:10:03,136 JANE: Finally. 125 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:11,878 Questioned. Given a verbal warning. 126 00:10:13,747 --> 00:10:15,648 Bad boy, don't do it again. 127 00:10:18,351 --> 00:10:19,719 (SIGHS) 128 00:10:23,556 --> 00:10:24,858 I'm sorry. 129 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,096 What hurts the most is being kept in the dark. 130 00:10:31,865 --> 00:10:33,400 I didn't want to get you involved. 131 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:34,801 (SIGHS) 132 00:10:35,802 --> 00:10:39,072 There were press people outside, Jim, dozens of them. 133 00:10:39,172 --> 00:10:41,374 We hadn't a clue what was going on. 134 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:43,209 And what if you had been arrested, 135 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:44,244 here or in America? 136 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:46,079 Wh... Wh... What would I have done? 137 00:10:47,447 --> 00:10:48,748 And the kids. 138 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:51,985 Did you think about any of us? 139 00:10:54,287 --> 00:10:56,756 - Did Murray put you up to this? - JIM: No. 140 00:10:58,992 --> 00:11:00,393 No, all my own doing. 141 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:02,896 Is that why you've been shut up in your study all this time? 142 00:11:04,731 --> 00:11:06,666 You've barely spoken a word to us. 143 00:11:06,766 --> 00:11:08,735 Spineless government hiding behind secrets, 144 00:11:08,835 --> 00:11:11,538 criminal investigation taking forever. 145 00:11:11,638 --> 00:11:13,807 I just wanted to make some noise. 146 00:11:15,608 --> 00:11:17,444 - Do something. - You are doing something. 147 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:20,113 You're constantly giving interviews, writing letters. 148 00:11:20,213 --> 00:11:23,616 - Howling at the moon. - No. No, Jim. That's not true. 149 00:11:23,717 --> 00:11:26,553 This will cause consternation and tutting for a few days, 150 00:11:26,653 --> 00:11:28,154 then it will all go quiet again. 151 00:11:33,993 --> 00:11:36,196 I should have told you. It was wrong of me. 152 00:11:46,906 --> 00:11:48,074 It's all for her. 153 00:11:53,646 --> 00:11:55,915 You haven't stopped since she died. 154 00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:02,889 What else can I do? 155 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:13,266 For now, take a step back. 156 00:12:15,502 --> 00:12:16,936 You have me, 157 00:12:17,637 --> 00:12:19,372 you have two other children... 158 00:12:21,708 --> 00:12:23,043 Be with us. 159 00:13:11,858 --> 00:13:14,094 - (DOOR OPENS) - Good to be back. 160 00:13:38,518 --> 00:13:39,519 (CHUCKLES) 161 00:13:41,454 --> 00:13:42,455 (JIM CLEARS THROAT) 162 00:13:45,058 --> 00:13:48,795 (INDISTINCT CHATTER AND LAUGHTER) 163 00:13:48,895 --> 00:13:50,830 JANE: Here it goes. 164 00:13:50,930 --> 00:13:52,999 - Thanks, darling. - You're going down. 165 00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:54,401 - Ready? - Steady. 166 00:13:54,501 --> 00:13:57,070 - Go! - WILL: What? No! 167 00:13:57,804 --> 00:14:00,106 (CATHY LAUGHING) 168 00:14:03,843 --> 00:14:05,512 No, no! No, no! 169 00:14:06,312 --> 00:14:08,081 Get behind me. 170 00:14:10,684 --> 00:14:12,318 Come on! 171 00:14:13,153 --> 00:14:14,320 Run! 172 00:14:19,059 --> 00:14:21,361 (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) 173 00:16:11,171 --> 00:16:14,474 - (INDISTINCT CHATTER) - (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) 174 00:16:21,581 --> 00:16:22,649 WILL: Thanks, Dad. 175 00:16:25,752 --> 00:16:27,354 (PATRONS APPLAUDING) 176 00:16:32,692 --> 00:16:34,494 NEWSCASTER: Now, three years later, 177 00:16:34,594 --> 00:16:37,297 two suspects have finally been identified. 178 00:16:37,397 --> 00:16:39,332 Their names announced earlier today 179 00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:42,268 by Scotland's Lord Advocate Peter Fraser. 180 00:16:42,369 --> 00:16:48,341 FRASER: And yesterday, Mr. McDougall obtained from him the grant of warrants 181 00:16:48,441 --> 00:16:51,978 for the arrest of two Libyan nationals... 182 00:16:52,078 --> 00:16:55,448 - Libya? I thought Iran did it? - ...on charges of conspiracy, 183 00:16:55,949 --> 00:16:58,218 murder and contravention 184 00:16:58,318 --> 00:17:02,822 of the Aviation Security Act of 1982. 185 00:17:02,922 --> 00:17:04,758 {\an8}The two accused are... 186 00:17:05,458 --> 00:17:10,497 Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi 187 00:17:11,097 --> 00:17:15,502 and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah. 188 00:17:16,336 --> 00:17:18,304 - Both accused are believed... - They did it. 189 00:17:18,405 --> 00:17:21,508 ...to be in Libya. The warrants will be 190 00:17:21,608 --> 00:17:23,977 - ...circulated to Interpol... - WILL: They got them. 191 00:17:24,077 --> 00:17:28,515 ...but it is considered unlikely that they will be arrested. 192 00:17:35,789 --> 00:17:38,191 (TIRES SCREECHING) 193 00:17:53,973 --> 00:17:55,342 (DOOR LOCKS) 194 00:17:55,442 --> 00:17:57,610 (BREATHING HEAVILY) 195 00:18:10,857 --> 00:18:13,760 - (TV PLAYING INDISTINCTLY) - (DISHES CLATTERING) 196 00:18:23,336 --> 00:18:24,504 {\an8}(SPEAKING ARABIC) 197 00:20:41,508 --> 00:20:43,677 JIM: So I've gone through the indictment 198 00:20:43,777 --> 00:20:45,478 and set it out in layman's terms, 199 00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:48,014 together with some of the other information that we have. 200 00:20:49,683 --> 00:20:51,685 As we know, the bomb... 201 00:20:52,452 --> 00:20:55,422 hand-built presumably, was hidden inside 202 00:20:55,522 --> 00:20:58,391 a Toshiba BomBeat radio-cassette recorder 203 00:20:58,491 --> 00:21:01,461 and placed amongst articles of clothing 204 00:21:02,462 --> 00:21:05,699 inside a brown Samsonite suitcase. 205 00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:09,302 Now we know this because blast-charred fragments of clothing and suitcase 206 00:21:09,402 --> 00:21:11,304 were found by search teams in Lockerbie 207 00:21:11,404 --> 00:21:12,806 and forensically examined 208 00:21:12,906 --> 00:21:15,241 by the Royal Armament Research and Development Establishment. 209 00:21:16,276 --> 00:21:19,079 Now at the same time, a baggage record from Frankfurt 210 00:21:19,179 --> 00:21:21,014 was turned over to Scottish police. 211 00:21:21,114 --> 00:21:23,750 It flagged one unattended piece of luggage, 212 00:21:23,850 --> 00:21:27,687 a suitcase not connected with anybody on the flight. 213 00:21:27,787 --> 00:21:30,890 That suitcase was destined for Pan Am 103. 214 00:21:31,725 --> 00:21:36,129 Via Frankfurt, it had originated in Malta. 215 00:21:36,229 --> 00:21:38,164 Forensic experts then looked more closely 216 00:21:38,264 --> 00:21:39,566 at the damaged clothing, 217 00:21:39,666 --> 00:21:42,902 finding a pair of Yorkie trousers, 218 00:21:43,003 --> 00:21:47,140 which Scottish police traced to a clothing manufacturer, also on Malta. 219 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,610 That manufacturer then led them to one of their buyers. 220 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:53,446 A shop called Mary's House, again on Malta. 221 00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:56,082 Now, Mary's House is owned by the Gauci family. 222 00:21:56,182 --> 00:21:59,419 Tony Gauci has positively identified one of the suspects, 223 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:01,488 Megrahi, to Scottish police 224 00:22:01,588 --> 00:22:07,494 as the man he sold the clothing to on December 7th, 1988. 225 00:22:07,594 --> 00:22:13,333 And then, amazingly, found lodged inside the remnants 226 00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:16,536 of one of the shirts that Gauci sold... 227 00:22:19,939 --> 00:22:21,041 was this. 228 00:22:23,576 --> 00:22:25,845 Tiny piece of electronic circuit board. 229 00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:33,353 This is absolutely central to the Crown's prosecution case. 230 00:22:34,287 --> 00:22:37,824 Both British and American forensic experts agree... 231 00:22:41,294 --> 00:22:43,563 this is part of the timer 232 00:22:44,464 --> 00:22:47,100 attached to the bomb's detonator. 233 00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:51,271 It was made by a Swiss firm based in Zurich, MEBO, 234 00:22:51,371 --> 00:22:55,542 owned by Edwin Bollier and Erwin Meister. 235 00:22:55,642 --> 00:23:01,314 MEBO supplied 20 of the timers exclusively to Libya. 236 00:23:02,415 --> 00:23:05,385 Not only this, but Megrahi established a front company 237 00:23:05,485 --> 00:23:07,887 under the name ABH, used as a cover 238 00:23:07,987 --> 00:23:10,123 for Libyan intelligence operations. 239 00:23:12,125 --> 00:23:14,260 This business was established 240 00:23:14,361 --> 00:23:17,997 in the same office building as MEBO. 241 00:23:21,101 --> 00:23:22,702 And here are our suspects. 242 00:23:29,209 --> 00:23:30,543 Both men live in Tripoli. 243 00:23:30,643 --> 00:23:33,480 Both are said to be Libyan intelligence agents, 244 00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:37,350 with Megrahi owning a second passport 245 00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:41,521 given to him by the Libyan Intelligence Agency, the JSO. 246 00:23:42,522 --> 00:23:44,491 Both men worked for Libyan-Arab airlines, 247 00:23:44,591 --> 00:23:47,761 with Megrahi as Head of Airline Security until 1986. 248 00:23:47,861 --> 00:23:51,931 Fhimah, as Station Manager at Malta airport until 1988. 249 00:23:52,032 --> 00:23:56,069 Police believe the bomb was put onto the plane at Malta airport, 250 00:23:56,169 --> 00:23:57,671 using Fhimah's old security pass 251 00:23:57,771 --> 00:24:01,041 to gain airside access, using Air Malta baggage tags... 252 00:24:01,141 --> 00:24:03,977 ...to allow unaccompanied baggage on board. 253 00:24:05,712 --> 00:24:07,414 That is how Fhimah and Megrahi 254 00:24:07,514 --> 00:24:09,849 were able to get the suitcase airside. 255 00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:14,487 That is how they were able to get the bomb straight through customs, 256 00:24:14,587 --> 00:24:16,756 and bypass airport security. 257 00:24:17,857 --> 00:24:21,895 That is how these men killed 270 people. 258 00:24:29,436 --> 00:24:31,137 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 259 00:24:40,914 --> 00:24:43,450 - Hello. - MURRAY: So let me get this straight. 260 00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:45,852 For almost three years, we've been told 261 00:24:45,952 --> 00:24:48,388 that Flight 103 was a revenge attack by Iran 262 00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:52,325 for the US shooting down its Airbus, killing 290 people. 263 00:24:52,425 --> 00:24:53,693 They paid a Palestinian terror group, 264 00:24:53,793 --> 00:24:57,163 the PFLP-GC, who are based in Syria, 265 00:24:57,263 --> 00:24:58,131 to carry out the bombing. 266 00:24:58,231 --> 00:25:02,502 So, we've got motives, named suspects. 267 00:25:02,602 --> 00:25:05,405 But then everything changes. We got it all wrong. 268 00:25:05,505 --> 00:25:06,606 It was Libya. 269 00:25:06,706 --> 00:25:09,409 Murray, have you actually read the indictment? 270 00:25:09,509 --> 00:25:11,344 The evidence against them is pretty damning. 271 00:25:11,444 --> 00:25:12,879 It's a remarkable piece of detective work. 272 00:25:12,979 --> 00:25:15,148 MURRAY: You know, I heard an interesting rumor this morning. 273 00:25:15,248 --> 00:25:16,416 President Bush rang Thatcher 274 00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:19,619 {\an8}three months after Lockerbie and told her, lay off Iran. 275 00:25:19,719 --> 00:25:21,721 {\an8}And then, on top of that, 276 00:25:21,821 --> 00:25:24,190 {\an8}a year later, Iraq invades Kuwait. 277 00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:27,794 {\an8}So now, we need Syria's help... 278 00:25:28,862 --> 00:25:30,363 ...to liberate Kuwait, 279 00:25:30,463 --> 00:25:32,365 keep Iran sweet and out of the way. 280 00:25:32,465 --> 00:25:33,967 That's how you defeat Saddam. 281 00:25:34,067 --> 00:25:36,903 Can you not accept that the Scottish investigators and the CIA 282 00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:38,104 might have got this right? 283 00:25:38,204 --> 00:25:39,773 MURRAY: I'm just asking the question, Jim. 284 00:25:39,873 --> 00:25:42,308 The West kicks the Middle East around like a football 285 00:25:42,409 --> 00:25:44,377 to suit its needs, always has done. 286 00:25:44,477 --> 00:25:46,212 I think that's what we're seeing here. 287 00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:47,547 Now it's Libya's turn. 288 00:25:47,647 --> 00:25:49,149 Rogue state ruled by Colonel Gaddafi, 289 00:25:49,249 --> 00:25:51,718 a murderous nutjob with a history of funding terrorism. 290 00:25:51,818 --> 00:25:53,520 Exactly. They have a history of this kind of thing. 291 00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:56,289 And we've been trying to topple Gaddafi for nearly a decade. 292 00:25:56,389 --> 00:25:57,991 I mean, what better excuse? 293 00:25:58,091 --> 00:26:00,727 Murray, I'm sorry. I don't have time to listen to your madcap theories. 294 00:26:00,827 --> 00:26:02,262 MURRAY: You mark my words, Jim. 295 00:26:02,362 --> 00:26:06,666 {\an8}If you think Gaddafi is going to let the West railroad Libya, 296 00:26:06,766 --> 00:26:08,601 you've got another thing coming. 297 00:26:08,702 --> 00:26:11,004 REPORTER: You going to do anything about Gaddafi? 298 00:26:11,104 --> 00:26:12,906 NEWSCASTER 1: The United States carried out the attack 299 00:26:13,006 --> 00:26:15,241 in retaliation for what it said were terrorist acts. 300 00:26:15,342 --> 00:26:17,877 Under the direct orders of the Libyan regime... 301 00:26:17,977 --> 00:26:19,813 NEWSCASTER 2: A noted 100 Libyans were killed... 302 00:26:19,913 --> 00:26:21,481 And 30 in Benghazi... 303 00:26:21,581 --> 00:26:23,550 NEWSCASTER 3: The defiance of Libyans in the street was soon apparent. 304 00:26:23,650 --> 00:26:27,654 NEWSCASTER 4: Suicide squads will be sent to attack American targets. 305 00:26:27,754 --> 00:26:29,155 {\an8}Renewed anti-American feeling within Libya. 306 00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:30,757 NEWSCASTER 5: Syrian leader, President Assad, 307 00:26:30,857 --> 00:26:32,359 pledging his support for Gaddafi. 308 00:26:32,459 --> 00:26:34,594 NEWSCASTER 6: Almost every major terrorist incident 309 00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:37,063 has been attributed to Libya and Gaddafi. 310 00:26:37,163 --> 00:26:39,799 {\an8}NEWSCASTER 7: Libya implemented the hijacking of a Pan Am jumbo jet 311 00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:41,334 carried out by four Palestinians. 312 00:26:41,434 --> 00:26:44,437 NEWSCASTER 8: The bullet which killed WPC Yvonne Fletcher 313 00:26:44,537 --> 00:26:47,007 came from Libyans inside the embassy. 314 00:26:48,141 --> 00:26:50,110 NEWSCASTER 9: Supported the Irish Republican Army. 315 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:53,646 This mad dog of the Middle East referred to the slaughter 316 00:26:53,747 --> 00:26:56,049 in Rome and Vienna airports as a noble act. 317 00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:59,219 Iran and Libya are two of the most dangerous supporters 318 00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:00,754 of terrorism in the world. 319 00:27:00,854 --> 00:27:04,991 {\an8}America is a powerful country. Will not intimidate us 320 00:27:05,091 --> 00:27:08,395 to accept a responsibility that is not ours. 321 00:27:21,808 --> 00:27:23,376 (CAR DOOR CLOSES AND LOCKS) 322 00:27:26,379 --> 00:27:27,781 JIM: Oh, my God! 323 00:27:31,151 --> 00:27:32,185 My apologies. 324 00:27:33,153 --> 00:27:34,954 I did not mean to frighten you. 325 00:27:36,589 --> 00:27:37,924 JIM: Who the hell are you? 326 00:27:41,461 --> 00:27:43,797 My name is Nabil Nagameldin. 327 00:27:43,897 --> 00:27:46,366 I work for the Al-Ahram newspaper in Cairo. 328 00:27:51,438 --> 00:27:55,742 I have come to tell you that Gaddafi will never release these two suspects. 329 00:27:55,842 --> 00:27:59,012 - That isn't possible. - Oh, no, I'm afraid it is. 330 00:27:59,112 --> 00:28:02,015 Libya is under immense international pressure to hand them over. 331 00:28:02,115 --> 00:28:05,151 Which would make most countries capitulate. 332 00:28:05,251 --> 00:28:09,055 But Libya is not most countries. Libya is ruled by Muammar Gaddafi, 333 00:28:09,155 --> 00:28:13,026 who loves nothing more than thumbing his nose at the West. 334 00:28:13,126 --> 00:28:15,929 He will stall and obstruct at every turn. 335 00:28:17,364 --> 00:28:18,932 But he's not stupid. 336 00:28:19,032 --> 00:28:22,969 He knows that he has to assuage the other Middle Eastern and African countries. 337 00:28:23,069 --> 00:28:27,841 So there are rumors these men will stand trial. 338 00:28:28,742 --> 00:28:30,043 But in Libya. 339 00:28:30,944 --> 00:28:33,380 No, they cannot be tried in Libya. 340 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,515 It is imperative these men stand trial in Scotland. 341 00:28:35,615 --> 00:28:39,019 I agree. That is why I have come here with a request, 342 00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:41,388 or more appropriately an offer... 343 00:28:41,488 --> 00:28:42,889 (CLEARS THROAT) 344 00:28:42,989 --> 00:28:46,493 ...to take you to Libya to meet with Colonel Gaddafi. 345 00:28:48,795 --> 00:28:51,564 - (SCOFFS) - NABIL: I have contacts in the Libyan government. 346 00:28:51,664 --> 00:28:53,400 I will write the article and you will... 347 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:55,335 you will grant me an interview after your meeting. 348 00:28:56,970 --> 00:29:00,006 Why on earth would I do something like that? 349 00:29:00,106 --> 00:29:03,610 Look, Gaddafi is... is... is impetuous and impatient. 350 00:29:03,710 --> 00:29:06,579 He... he has to be approached with... with certain, 351 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,948 shall we say, unconventional ways. 352 00:29:09,049 --> 00:29:13,386 An approach like this from you, that is one of those ways, I'm convinced. 353 00:29:13,486 --> 00:29:15,755 Gaddafi doesn't have the first idea who I am. 354 00:29:15,855 --> 00:29:18,224 NABIL: You are wrong, Dr. Swire. 355 00:29:19,159 --> 00:29:21,428 In the Middle East, you have standing, 356 00:29:22,395 --> 00:29:23,396 you are known. 357 00:29:24,531 --> 00:29:28,435 You are admired. People respect you. Truly. 358 00:29:28,535 --> 00:29:31,004 They have seen you stand up against your government. 359 00:29:31,104 --> 00:29:35,709 {\an8}Look, next month in New York, the UN Security Council 360 00:29:35,809 --> 00:29:38,111 {\an8}will be meeting to discuss Resolution 731, 361 00:29:38,211 --> 00:29:40,980 {\an8}compelling Libya to hand over the two suspects. 362 00:29:41,881 --> 00:29:43,350 Gaddafi will not comply. 363 00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:46,619 Your country and America's next move will be to impose sanctions. 364 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,455 The moment that happens, 365 00:29:48,555 --> 00:29:51,458 Libya will become even more of a pariah state. 366 00:29:51,558 --> 00:29:53,460 Gaddafi's position will harden, 367 00:29:54,761 --> 00:29:57,263 and your... your Lockerbie trial will be... 368 00:29:57,897 --> 00:29:59,566 will be dead, finished. 369 00:30:04,637 --> 00:30:06,006 Tell me this is a bad joke. 370 00:30:06,106 --> 00:30:07,874 Are you sure he's not making it all up? 371 00:30:07,974 --> 00:30:09,242 Oh, no, he seems genuine. 372 00:30:09,342 --> 00:30:11,311 He writes for a newspaper in Cairo. 373 00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:13,346 Dad, you're not going. 374 00:30:13,446 --> 00:30:16,449 I didn't want to decide anything until I'd spoken to all of you. 375 00:30:17,751 --> 00:30:18,785 He's right, though. 376 00:30:18,885 --> 00:30:20,754 If the UN do impose sanctions on Libya, 377 00:30:20,854 --> 00:30:24,090 those two men will never stand trial in Scotland. 378 00:30:24,824 --> 00:30:26,359 - It's crazy, I know. - WILL: Crazy? 379 00:30:26,459 --> 00:30:29,896 Terry Waite went to Beirut to negotiate the release of hostages, 380 00:30:29,996 --> 00:30:32,399 and they locked him in a basement for four years. 381 00:30:32,499 --> 00:30:34,934 Do I have any choice? 382 00:30:35,035 --> 00:30:37,837 If there's no trial, we will never find out the truth. 383 00:30:37,937 --> 00:30:39,706 WILL: Do you know what they call Gaddafi? 384 00:30:39,806 --> 00:30:43,543 The Mad Dog. He's a dictator. His regime murders people. 385 00:30:43,643 --> 00:30:44,644 JIM: I'm completely aware of that. 386 00:30:44,744 --> 00:30:47,647 I'm sure he's happy to sit down with Jim Swire, 387 00:30:47,747 --> 00:30:51,818 a GP from Bromsgrove, and give him whatever he wants. 388 00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:53,520 - Mum, are you gonna say anything? - I have. 389 00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:56,623 {\an8}- I didn't want it to descend into this. - What did you expect? 390 00:30:56,723 --> 00:30:58,458 That we're all behind you? 391 00:30:58,558 --> 00:31:01,461 No, please... Will, please come back. 392 00:31:01,561 --> 00:31:04,297 (FOOTSTEPS RECEDING) 393 00:31:07,133 --> 00:31:09,402 Well, Gaddafi's popularity stems 394 00:31:09,502 --> 00:31:11,438 from his nationalist achievements. 395 00:31:11,538 --> 00:31:13,873 Demanding higher prices for Libyan oil, 396 00:31:13,973 --> 00:31:15,275 expelling foreign military bases, 397 00:31:15,375 --> 00:31:19,479 support for Palestine and other anti-imperialist causes. 398 00:31:19,579 --> 00:31:22,315 Gaddafi has also had dozens of his critics 399 00:31:22,415 --> 00:31:25,485 around the world assassinated. 400 00:31:28,922 --> 00:31:30,156 The moral support you wanted? 401 00:31:30,256 --> 00:31:32,559 - I have to do this. - I can't tell you what to do. 402 00:31:32,659 --> 00:31:34,260 - You would go. - Like a shot. 403 00:31:34,361 --> 00:31:36,062 But I don't have a family. 404 00:31:36,162 --> 00:31:40,133 I'm not a spokesman for UK Families Flight 103. 405 00:31:42,068 --> 00:31:44,237 - Have you told them about this? - Not yet. 406 00:31:45,171 --> 00:31:47,207 But I'm hoping they'll be in support. 407 00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:54,014 The group... The family's not exactly happy about it. 408 00:31:54,948 --> 00:31:56,249 (EXCLAIMS HESITANTLY) 409 00:31:56,783 --> 00:31:58,018 What? 410 00:31:58,118 --> 00:32:01,187 Just make sure they don't say anything to anyone. 411 00:32:03,757 --> 00:32:06,326 - Why? - Jim, are you kiddin'? 412 00:32:06,426 --> 00:32:07,360 (CHUCKLES) 413 00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:09,996 You took a fake bomb on a passenger plane. 414 00:32:10,096 --> 00:32:13,066 You've pissed off Thatcher's government God knows how many times. 415 00:32:13,166 --> 00:32:15,568 - They'll be watching your every move. - No. 416 00:32:17,303 --> 00:32:20,473 - You really think so? - They'll get every fax before you do. 417 00:32:20,573 --> 00:32:21,574 Tap every phone call. 418 00:32:21,675 --> 00:32:23,243 They've probably been listening in for years. 419 00:32:23,343 --> 00:32:25,945 From now on, you need to be careful what you say. 420 00:32:26,046 --> 00:32:28,448 But I promised Jane I'd phone her every day. 421 00:32:28,548 --> 00:32:29,549 (SIGHS) 422 00:32:32,185 --> 00:32:34,421 Will they try to stop me, you think? 423 00:32:34,521 --> 00:32:39,459 Libya's been on the state-sponsored terrorism list since 1979. 424 00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:41,361 So yeah, they might. 425 00:32:42,062 --> 00:32:43,563 You watch yourself. 426 00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:46,166 You're no good to anyone dead. 427 00:32:51,771 --> 00:32:55,875 JIM: If I call you and say, "Tell the family everything's all right," 428 00:32:55,975 --> 00:32:57,410 that means what it says. 429 00:32:58,244 --> 00:33:00,280 - I'm safe. - Bye, darling. 430 00:33:04,217 --> 00:33:06,753 JIM: If I say, "Tell the family everything's fine..." 431 00:33:06,853 --> 00:33:10,724 JANE: That means things are not going as planned, but they're not critical. 432 00:33:12,425 --> 00:33:16,596 JIM: If I say, "Tell everyone everything's all right." 433 00:33:16,696 --> 00:33:18,198 That means I'm in danger. 434 00:33:18,298 --> 00:33:21,167 Phone the Foreign Office and tell them to get me out. 435 00:33:22,135 --> 00:33:24,337 And what if you can't get to a phone? 436 00:34:03,076 --> 00:34:05,311 (ENGINE STARTS) 437 00:34:23,763 --> 00:34:25,365 (TIRES SQUEAL) 438 00:34:41,981 --> 00:34:44,551 (TIRES SQUEALING) 439 00:34:47,887 --> 00:34:49,889 (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) 440 00:35:22,655 --> 00:35:23,656 (CAR DOOR CLOSES) 441 00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:01,461 NABIL: It's okay. We wait here. 442 00:36:04,798 --> 00:36:05,799 Who's this? 443 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,136 It's, uh, the 1986 attack, 444 00:36:10,236 --> 00:36:13,139 when Reagan ordered the bombing of Tripoli. 445 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,843 Gaddafi's adoptive daughter, Hannah, was killed instantly. 446 00:36:16,943 --> 00:36:18,945 She was 15 months old. 447 00:36:19,045 --> 00:36:20,447 He has never forgotten. 448 00:36:26,653 --> 00:36:27,654 Please. 449 00:36:28,054 --> 00:36:30,256 (SPEAKING ARABIC) 450 00:36:30,357 --> 00:36:32,992 (IN ENGLISH) Um, I will wait for you here. 451 00:36:33,093 --> 00:36:34,661 Good luck, Dr. Swire. 452 00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:08,094 (DOOR OPENS) 453 00:37:08,194 --> 00:37:10,497 (FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING) 454 00:37:56,376 --> 00:37:58,278 Thank you for meeting with me, sir. 455 00:37:58,845 --> 00:38:00,714 You have come to talk with me. 456 00:38:02,148 --> 00:38:03,483 So talk. 457 00:38:04,918 --> 00:38:07,654 We, um, myself, 458 00:38:07,754 --> 00:38:10,623 the families and relatives of those who died, 459 00:38:11,624 --> 00:38:14,594 our utmost desire is, uh, to see justice done. 460 00:38:14,694 --> 00:38:17,364 So tell me, how will justice be done? 461 00:38:17,464 --> 00:38:19,332 Already the West has convicted them. 462 00:38:19,432 --> 00:38:21,334 They are the Lockerbie bombers. 463 00:38:21,434 --> 00:38:24,037 The Libyan mass murderers. Is that justice? 464 00:38:24,137 --> 00:38:26,106 No, sir. It is not. 465 00:38:29,042 --> 00:38:30,043 If I may... 466 00:38:41,421 --> 00:38:47,794 I brought some photographs of my daughter Flora. 467 00:38:57,637 --> 00:39:02,642 I ask only that the two men accused of this crime be made to stand trial. 468 00:39:02,742 --> 00:39:04,477 I assure you, they will be treated fairly. 469 00:39:04,577 --> 00:39:07,180 When has Libya ever been treated fairly? 470 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,682 Can you tell me? 471 00:39:08,782 --> 00:39:11,785 My country is being blackmailed and bullied into compliance 472 00:39:11,885 --> 00:39:15,021 by the Americans, by the UN, and your country. 473 00:39:17,123 --> 00:39:18,324 If you do as they wish-- 474 00:39:18,425 --> 00:39:20,727 Why should I agree to a trial here or anywhere? 475 00:39:20,827 --> 00:39:24,130 Did the cowardly American pilot who dropped the missile 476 00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:26,566 on my home ever stand a trial? No. 477 00:39:26,666 --> 00:39:28,935 He was commended for his bravery. 478 00:39:30,236 --> 00:39:31,905 This meeting is over. 479 00:39:42,849 --> 00:39:44,651 Sir, we both lost daughters. 480 00:39:47,387 --> 00:39:49,556 I'm asking you, father to father. 481 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,148 This is not about revenge. 482 00:40:20,086 --> 00:40:21,855 Pan Am 103. 483 00:40:23,123 --> 00:40:24,557 The truth must be known. 484 00:40:30,463 --> 00:40:32,232 I only want to know who killed my daughter. 485 00:41:01,628 --> 00:41:04,898 A British man who lost his daughter in the Pan Am 103 bombing 486 00:41:04,998 --> 00:41:08,702 is being criticized for meeting with Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. 487 00:41:08,802 --> 00:41:10,170 I fully understand the repugnance 488 00:41:10,270 --> 00:41:12,172 at anyone shaking the hand of Colonel Gaddafi, 489 00:41:12,272 --> 00:41:15,875 a man who may have known about, or even ordered the Lockerbie plot. 490 00:41:15,975 --> 00:41:18,578 But let them also ask themselves if they want to see 491 00:41:18,678 --> 00:41:20,714 these two men stand trial or not. 492 00:41:20,814 --> 00:41:24,651 {\an8}I'm angry because the British perception of Jim Swire 493 00:41:24,751 --> 00:41:26,853 {\an8}is that he speaks for all of us. 494 00:41:28,488 --> 00:41:34,127 {\an8}BERT: Well, Jim's heart was in the right place, but, uh, he left his brain at home. 495 00:41:34,227 --> 00:41:37,931 {\an8}The Libyans have won a propaganda coup with this trip. 496 00:41:39,799 --> 00:41:42,302 {\an8}Jim Swire has been duped by Gaddafi. 497 00:41:42,402 --> 00:41:44,971 {\an8}Jim Swire has become Gaddafi's poodle. 498 00:41:46,306 --> 00:41:49,542 JOHN MOSEY: We're glad as a group to have someone like Jim, 499 00:41:49,642 --> 00:41:54,080 {\an8}someone who is as active and committed and dedicated. 500 00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:59,686 {\an8}Although it has, and it will cost him a great deal. 501 00:42:16,436 --> 00:42:17,737 {\an8}(SPEAKING ARABIC) 502 00:42:32,052 --> 00:42:34,120 (IN ENGLISH) Pierre Salinger, ABC News. 503 00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:35,422 Hello, sir. 504 00:42:35,522 --> 00:42:37,457 Very grateful you've agreed to speak with me, Mr. Megrahi. 505 00:42:37,557 --> 00:42:41,061 America is very interested in what you have to say about these charges. 506 00:42:43,196 --> 00:42:47,033 According to the indictment, you traveled with a special suitcase 507 00:42:47,133 --> 00:42:52,305 from Tripoli to Malta Airport on the 20th of December, 1988. 508 00:42:52,405 --> 00:42:53,973 What you mean special suitcase? 509 00:42:54,574 --> 00:42:56,142 A Samsonite suitcase. 510 00:42:57,444 --> 00:42:59,746 No, that is wrong. Uh... 511 00:43:00,246 --> 00:43:01,514 Whenever I go to Malta, 512 00:43:01,614 --> 00:43:04,884 which is a lot, because of my job, I... I... 513 00:43:04,984 --> 00:43:09,723 {\an8}I carry what I... what I carry in a... a clothing case. 514 00:43:09,823 --> 00:43:12,759 It's a small case, a small case. A small case. 515 00:43:12,859 --> 00:43:15,395 Nev... Never big case. 516 00:43:15,495 --> 00:43:17,897 SALINGER: You keep a diary, Mr. Fhimah, do you not? 517 00:43:17,997 --> 00:43:20,033 Yes, a personal diary. 518 00:43:20,133 --> 00:43:21,534 SALINGER: Hmm. 519 00:43:21,634 --> 00:43:25,138 They say you wrote a reminder to take some Air Malta baggage tags, 520 00:43:25,238 --> 00:43:28,975 the kind that get bags onto planes unaccompanied from the airport. 521 00:43:29,075 --> 00:43:31,344 Now, why would you have written that? 522 00:43:31,444 --> 00:43:34,214 If I could, uh, look at my diary, 523 00:43:34,314 --> 00:43:35,382 I could tell you why. 524 00:43:35,482 --> 00:43:38,218 The indictment also says that when you went to Malta 525 00:43:38,318 --> 00:43:39,419 on the 20th of December, 526 00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:42,922 you did so on a false passport, using a false name. 527 00:43:43,023 --> 00:43:45,925 If I had written something important in my diary, 528 00:43:46,026 --> 00:43:48,128 I wouldn't have just left it there. 529 00:43:48,228 --> 00:43:49,763 In other words, if you felt there was something in there 530 00:43:49,863 --> 00:43:52,198 that might implicate you in some crime? 531 00:43:52,298 --> 00:43:53,566 Exactly. Exactly. 532 00:43:53,667 --> 00:43:57,437 (CHUCKLES) I'm, uh, surp... surprised they tell me this. 533 00:43:57,537 --> 00:43:59,039 I'm here in Tripoli. 534 00:43:59,139 --> 00:44:01,975 My family know I was here. I was here. They know I was here. 535 00:44:02,075 --> 00:44:03,877 SALINGER: Well, the indictment says you were in Malta. 536 00:44:03,977 --> 00:44:06,212 That you stayed at the Holiday Inn on the night of the 20th, 537 00:44:06,312 --> 00:44:09,582 into the 21st of December, 1988, the day of the bombing. 538 00:44:09,683 --> 00:44:13,086 My friend, I tell you, I'm... I'm not on Malta on the day. 539 00:44:13,186 --> 00:44:14,220 I was here. 540 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,423 You were here, in Tripoli, on the 21st of December? 541 00:44:16,523 --> 00:44:18,091 Yes. 542 00:44:22,595 --> 00:44:24,898 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 543 00:44:26,633 --> 00:44:28,368 (VAN DOOR SLIDING CLOSED) 544 00:44:29,269 --> 00:44:30,837 (ENGINE STARTING) 545 00:44:32,672 --> 00:44:34,040 (SIGHS) 546 00:44:35,308 --> 00:44:36,309 {\an8}(SPEAKING ARABIC) 547 00:45:28,628 --> 00:45:29,763 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 548 00:45:29,863 --> 00:45:31,464 - JIM: (IN ENGLISH) Hello? - NABIL: Hello, Jim. 549 00:45:31,564 --> 00:45:32,599 JIM: Nabil. 550 00:45:32,699 --> 00:45:33,967 NABIL: It's exactly as I feared. 551 00:45:34,067 --> 00:45:36,136 The UN Security Council have passed the resolution. 552 00:45:36,236 --> 00:45:39,305 And now Gaddafi is refusing to release the two suspects, 553 00:45:39,406 --> 00:45:40,473 despite the sanctions. 554 00:45:40,573 --> 00:45:41,608 No. 555 00:45:41,708 --> 00:45:44,044 NABIL: We've reached a stalemate, Jim. 556 00:45:44,778 --> 00:45:46,479 A standoff has begun. 557 00:45:46,579 --> 00:45:49,816 COUNCIL MEMBER: The international community will not tolerate such threats 558 00:45:49,916 --> 00:45:52,118 {\an8}to international peace and security. 559 00:45:52,218 --> 00:45:55,555 It is prepared to take concerted political action 560 00:45:55,655 --> 00:45:57,223 against the continuing defiance 561 00:45:57,323 --> 00:46:00,827 represented by Libya's state-supported terrorists. 562 00:46:00,927 --> 00:46:02,629 NEWSCASTER 1: At a five-year memorial service, 563 00:46:02,729 --> 00:46:05,765 President Clinton had appeared to throw down the gauntlet 564 00:46:05,865 --> 00:46:07,400 for the Pan Am bombing. 565 00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:09,235 It was an attack on America. 566 00:46:09,336 --> 00:46:11,905 NEWSCASTER 2: The next logical punitive step by the United Nations 567 00:46:12,005 --> 00:46:13,239 would be to order a naval blockade. 568 00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:15,008 NEWSCASTER 3: ...if not outright military action. 569 00:46:15,108 --> 00:46:17,677 {\an8}Libyan anger over United Nations' sanction vote 570 00:46:17,777 --> 00:46:19,145 {\an8}has apparently come to a boil. 571 00:46:19,245 --> 00:46:21,648 Demonstrators attacked foreign embassies in Tripoli today. 572 00:46:21,748 --> 00:46:23,516 NEWSCASTER 4: ...took to the streets to protest... 573 00:46:23,616 --> 00:46:26,019 NEWSCASTER 5: US sanctions have cost nearly $2.5 billion. 574 00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:27,987 FRANK RUBINO: My clients have advised me that they cannot 575 00:46:28,088 --> 00:46:30,990 {\an8}get a fair trial in the United States... 576 00:46:31,091 --> 00:46:32,926 {\an8}...where people believe they're already guilty. 577 00:46:33,026 --> 00:46:34,260 NEWSCASTER 6: Under no circumstances 578 00:46:34,361 --> 00:46:36,563 will they be extradited to face trial in the West. 579 00:46:36,663 --> 00:46:37,964 Sorry, we cannot. 580 00:46:38,064 --> 00:46:40,367 It is unacceptable to say justice in Scotland is not fair. 581 00:46:40,467 --> 00:46:43,203 About time all sides stopped shouting at each other from the touchlines. 582 00:46:43,303 --> 00:46:46,139 {\an8}I'm not here to talk politics. I'm here to talk truth and justice. 583 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,042 LIBYAN MINISTER: We have the same interest like Jim Swire. 584 00:46:49,142 --> 00:46:52,379 We want the truth to be revealed and to be found. 585 00:46:52,479 --> 00:46:54,981 Have we done everything we could do? 586 00:46:55,081 --> 00:46:57,384 {\an8}Well, uh, if that's so, it hasn't been enough. 587 00:46:57,484 --> 00:47:00,587 NEWSCASTER 7: Eight years after Pan Am 103 was blown out of the sky, 588 00:47:00,687 --> 00:47:03,189 the case against the suspected terrorist bombers 589 00:47:03,289 --> 00:47:05,892 is an international standoff going nowhere. 590 00:47:05,992 --> 00:47:08,228 Libya's leader refuses to hand the men over. 591 00:47:08,328 --> 00:47:11,765 Resolving the case of Pan Am 103 in a court of law 592 00:47:11,865 --> 00:47:13,566 seems as distant as ever. 593 00:47:13,667 --> 00:47:16,136 {\an8}My latest proposal will be my last. 594 00:47:16,236 --> 00:47:18,471 {\an8}If this doesn't work, it may be the end of the line. 595 00:47:18,571 --> 00:47:21,241 There is a slight chance it will be accepted, 596 00:47:21,341 --> 00:47:24,310 and any chance is better than no chance. 597 00:47:31,051 --> 00:47:33,019 JIM: Thank you for meeting me, Professor Black. 598 00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:35,622 Oh, please, Jim. It's, uh, Robert. 599 00:47:35,722 --> 00:47:37,123 I feel like I already know you. 600 00:47:37,457 --> 00:47:38,458 Please. 601 00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:41,561 After four long years, 602 00:47:41,661 --> 00:47:42,796 this is where we stand. 603 00:47:42,896 --> 00:47:46,633 We are proposing the trial be held in a neutral country. 604 00:47:46,733 --> 00:47:48,034 The Netherlands? 605 00:47:48,134 --> 00:47:49,703 Uh, it's the only way we'll get the Libyans on board. 606 00:47:49,803 --> 00:47:51,338 It's the same with the jury. 607 00:47:51,438 --> 00:47:54,407 Their lawyers are arguing that any jury will be biased. 608 00:47:54,507 --> 00:47:57,610 So we're proposing a panel of Scottish judges, 609 00:47:57,711 --> 00:48:01,448 which Libya are still... (SIGHS) 610 00:48:01,548 --> 00:48:02,215 ...mulling over. 611 00:48:02,315 --> 00:48:03,249 You've had quite a battle of it. 612 00:48:03,350 --> 00:48:06,219 We are making legal history here. 613 00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:09,956 Nothing like this on this scale has ever been done before. 614 00:48:10,824 --> 00:48:13,326 The only problem is the US and the UK don't want 615 00:48:13,426 --> 00:48:15,729 to be seen making concessions to Gaddafi. 616 00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:18,832 And Gaddafi wants the Arab world to see him standing up 617 00:48:18,932 --> 00:48:22,502 to the imperialistic dogs of the West. 618 00:48:22,602 --> 00:48:26,473 Behind closed doors, of course, both sides are desperate to agree. 619 00:48:26,573 --> 00:48:28,408 The UK and the US for the sake of the families, 620 00:48:28,508 --> 00:48:32,979 and Libya because UN sanctions are slowly killing the country. 621 00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,248 Right now, it's Gaddafi that worries me. 622 00:48:35,815 --> 00:48:36,983 I think he's about to walk away, 623 00:48:37,083 --> 00:48:38,752 whether his country collapses or not. 624 00:48:38,852 --> 00:48:40,553 - You can't give up. - I don't want to. 625 00:48:40,653 --> 00:48:43,456 I was born and raised in Lockerbie, Jim. 626 00:48:44,157 --> 00:48:47,293 We will do all we can. Believe me. 627 00:48:47,394 --> 00:48:52,232 But unless we can get Gaddafi on board, it's game over. 628 00:48:52,766 --> 00:48:54,134 I'll help you. 629 00:48:57,137 --> 00:48:58,905 I have Gaddafi on speed dial. 630 00:48:59,005 --> 00:49:02,308 (CELLPHONE KEYPAD BEEPING) 631 00:49:04,411 --> 00:49:06,746 Last traces of my sense of humor, Robert. 632 00:49:07,580 --> 00:49:11,317 Ah. (CHUCKLES) 633 00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:14,788 But I'm serious. 634 00:49:16,923 --> 00:49:18,425 We should go and pay him a visit. 635 00:49:58,064 --> 00:49:59,933 (EXHALES) 636 00:50:00,033 --> 00:50:02,402 Don't take waiting this long as a bad sign. 637 00:50:17,183 --> 00:50:18,485 (SPEAKING ARABIC) 638 00:50:24,624 --> 00:50:26,960 (IN ENGLISH) This is Professor Robert Black, 639 00:50:27,060 --> 00:50:29,629 the legal expert who first proposed the idea. 640 00:50:31,064 --> 00:50:32,565 (SPEAKING ARABIC) 641 00:50:32,665 --> 00:50:33,667 (IN ENGLISH) Have a seat. 642 00:50:43,076 --> 00:50:45,478 My patience is being tested. 643 00:50:45,578 --> 00:50:48,181 My legal experts has been in a discussion 644 00:50:48,281 --> 00:50:49,549 with yours for many years. 645 00:50:49,649 --> 00:50:53,553 We are impatient also, but we must persevere. 646 00:50:54,254 --> 00:50:57,590 Uh... Uh, the tide is turning, sir. 647 00:50:57,691 --> 00:51:01,061 I note that the Arab League have signaled their displeasure 648 00:51:01,161 --> 00:51:03,063 at the current sanctions. 649 00:51:03,163 --> 00:51:05,799 The whole world wants to see this trial happen. 650 00:51:09,269 --> 00:51:11,171 The one thing they aren't expecting 651 00:51:11,271 --> 00:51:14,207 is for you to take the lead. Send the suspects. 652 00:51:14,307 --> 00:51:17,344 The... the trial will be fair, your reputation intact. 653 00:51:17,444 --> 00:51:19,713 And they will have no choice but to lift the sanctions. 654 00:51:19,813 --> 00:51:21,014 You win. 655 00:51:21,114 --> 00:51:22,115 JIM: On every count, sir. 656 00:51:22,215 --> 00:51:24,451 A victory for both you and your country. 657 00:51:26,419 --> 00:51:29,789 The way you lead, others will follow. 658 00:51:31,157 --> 00:51:33,426 NEWSCASTER 1: The Libyan government has finally agreed 659 00:51:33,526 --> 00:51:35,228 to allow the suspects to be tried 660 00:51:35,328 --> 00:51:38,998 in neutral territory under Scottish law. 661 00:51:39,099 --> 00:51:40,934 - (POUNDING ON DOOR) - (AISHA GASPS) 662 00:51:44,804 --> 00:51:47,640 NEWSCASTER 2: The trial, masterminded by Professor Robert Black, 663 00:51:47,741 --> 00:51:50,710 will be held at a former airbase in the Netherlands, 664 00:51:50,810 --> 00:51:53,480 a first in international legal history. 665 00:52:17,771 --> 00:52:20,040 NEWSCASTER 3: Some people said there was never going to be 666 00:52:20,140 --> 00:52:23,109 a criminal trial into the mass murder over Lockerbie. 667 00:52:23,209 --> 00:52:25,311 There now is going to be a criminal trial. 668 00:52:25,412 --> 00:52:27,047 And best of all, the relatives will now have 669 00:52:27,147 --> 00:52:28,581 the chance to hear the evidence 670 00:52:28,682 --> 00:52:31,418 that we hold brought out in a local court. 671 00:52:46,666 --> 00:52:48,601 I know you want to go to the trial. 672 00:52:50,804 --> 00:52:52,372 But after it's over, 673 00:52:53,173 --> 00:52:54,808 I want you to promise me something. 674 00:52:55,909 --> 00:52:56,910 What? 675 00:53:03,983 --> 00:53:05,385 JANE: That that's the end of it. 676 00:53:06,786 --> 00:53:07,787 You stop. 677 00:53:09,689 --> 00:53:12,392 You accept the verdict, whatever it is. 678 00:53:19,866 --> 00:53:20,900 And we get you back. 679 00:53:21,001 --> 00:53:23,003 (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING) 680 00:53:35,081 --> 00:53:36,049 I promise. 681 00:53:38,251 --> 00:53:40,587 (THEME MUSIC PLAYING)